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Michael Penn
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JB, did you tell these DC writers that in your story it wasn't actually the real Superman walking down the street?
(Not that I think that it would necessarily matter.)
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John Byrne
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I did.
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Paul Wills
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What's fascinating to me is the fact that JB always has some story concept of any given character floating around in his head!
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Jason K Fulton
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I wonder if being a "writer that can also draw" just gives you a leg up on writers that can't draw / can't visualize.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 20 August 2024 at 3:22pm | IP Logged | 5
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An astonishing number of comic book writers seem unable to think in pictures. They will ask the artist for impossible things, usually things requiring actual movement of the POV. (Remember those multiple figure panels I used to do in IRON FIST? Most of those came about due to Chris asking for several actions in a single shot.)
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Michael Penn
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| Posted: 20 August 2024 at 3:30pm | IP Logged | 6
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I used to think comicbook panels were akin to storyboarding for a movie -- until I found this forum and JB schooled me otherwise. It's weird hearing that professionals can think like non-professionals!
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John Byrne
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Yes, I’ve often had people say I should go to Hollywood and do storyboards. But I explain comics are a very different discipline. If I did storyboards that change camera angles as often as I do on a page, it would make BLAIR WITCH look like stedi-cam. The audience would get seasick!
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Andrew Bitner
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| Posted: 20 August 2024 at 3:56pm | IP Logged | 8
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Paul: What's fascinating to me is the fact that JB always has some story concept of any given character floating around in his head!
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JB's a natural storyteller. I wouldn't be surprised if there are many characters for which he has/had story ideas sufficient to run a year or more.
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And JB's Superman was "audacious" (to me) because it promised to be a real fresh start and a new take on the character. Superman was no longer a two-dimensional paragon with every power known to man and rarely an ability to be hurt, much less suffer a defeat; now he was interesting.
But, as JB noted, that's not what DC wanted. I stopped buying Superman titles soon after JB left those books.
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John Byrne
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I knew I was in trouble not long after I started, when Dick Giordano told me “we now have two versions of Superman; the one you’re working on, and the one we license.”Excellent support, there!
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Fred J Chamberlain
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A buddy of mine, who has been doing graphic novel work for
a video game company, spoke to me about the challenges and
frustrations he experienced trying to work with scripts
that came from a write with no concept of writing for
comics. It paid very well, but he talked about it over the
course of many months..... I joked with him that I wanted
to bill him for the verbalized angst and trauma that he
spent hours talking to me about it.
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Peter Hicks
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JB - Other than having Kal El’s mother come to Earth with him, and be killed by kryptonite to prove it was lethal, did DC forbid you from doing anything else in Superman that you proposed?
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