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Steven Myers
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Posted: 22 December 2024 at 5:15pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply
“Death SELLS!” 

Yes. Though I wonder if the proliferation of character deaths has blunted this somewhat. Marvel recently had a story where Ms. Marvel died and no one thought it was permanent.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 22 December 2024 at 6:34pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply
“Nobody dies forever!”

When I killed Terrax I thought having him consumed by the Power Cosmic was a pretty sure way to ensure a permanent death, but it didn’t take long for another writer to bring him back. No greater effort was expended than “I got better.”

Also brought him back in the wrong burrough.

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Brian Floyd
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Posted: 22 December 2024 at 8:19pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply
DC killed Barry Allen off in Crisis, and kept him dead for over two decades.

They turned Hal Jordan evil, killed him off for what seemed like a blink of an eye, turned him into the Spectre, then made a retcon/excuse that let him off the hook.

One of two is one of my absolute favorite heroes ever, and one is a hero whose book I read mainly when he shared it with Green Arrow. I've always found Hal Jordan boring. 




Edited by Brian Floyd on 22 December 2024 at 8:21pm
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 22 December 2024 at 10:57pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply
As a fan who arrived too late to know Gwen Stacy, her death meant nothing
to me. But early on, I felt how much it was understood that her death was a
big deal. It took me well into adulthood to understand what a negative
impact I believe that story had as a precedent for other “big deal” death
stories.

I realize now that if she hadn’t died she would be so much less spoken of. I
really can’t imagine “Spider-Gwen” being a concept that arose if she had
not died.

“Dying” can be a first step toward immortality.
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