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John Byrne

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Posted: 23 December 2024 at 8:47pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply
what were the reasons for Byrne to decided to do everything himself? I need a history lesson here because I can't think of anything else beside greed

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$$$$$$

With Byrne writing, drawing, and inking each issue of FF, not to mention is residuals and sales bonuses (which came in around that time), he was really raking it in.

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Found this exchange elsewhere. To provide the requested history lesson, when Terry decided he didn’t want to ink FANTASTIC FOUR, editor Jim Salicrup told me there were only two inkers then available, Vince Colleta and Jim Mooney.

Jim S asked if I would be interested in doing it myself—he’d liked what he’d seen of my inks—and after some hesitation, I said yes.

Greed? This was long before royalties, and my page rates were still only slightly higher than the bottom of the barrel.

Sorry to disappoint.

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Michael Penn
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Posted: 23 December 2024 at 9:38pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply
Even if what this person baselessly opined were accurate, is accepting an offer to do a lot more work for more money actually an example of greed, i.e., an intense and selfish desire for something, especially wealth?
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Peter Hicks
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Posted: 23 December 2024 at 10:59pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply
“… there were only two inkers then available, Vince Colleta and Jim Mooney.”

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I would be interested in how they defined “available”.   I would think by that year, Marvel was receiving samples from aspiring artists on a daily basis.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 23 December 2024 at 11:30pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply
What do you imagine are the odds of an “aspiring artist” being assigned to FANTASTIC FOUR?
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Eric Smearman
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Posted: 24 December 2024 at 4:29am | IP Logged | 5 post reply
I liked Jim Mooney's work but I can't imagine your style
and his meshing well.

Colletta, well...Bullet dodged.
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Doug Centers
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Posted: 24 December 2024 at 11:51am | IP Logged | 6 post reply
Mooney did a great job over JB in that one Daredevil issue, IMHO.
So happy tho, that Salicrup asked JB to ink his own, the rest is history.
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Scott Gray
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Posted: 24 December 2024 at 11:57am | IP Logged | 7 post reply
John Byrne: To provide the requested history lesson, when Terry decided he didn’t want to ink FANTASTIC FOUR, editor Jim Salicrup told me there were only two inkers then available, Vince Colleta and Jim Mooney.

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That's very interesting. Do you have any idea why Joe Sinnott was no longer available for the FF?
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John Byrne

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Posted: 24 December 2024 at 12:56pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply
Other inkers, including Joe, were committed to other assignments.
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Dave Kopperman
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Posted: 24 December 2024 at 1:56pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply
Byrne/Colletta would not have worked in the slightest, but there’s a part of me that would love to see how that looked. Did VC ever ink JB?
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John Byrne

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Posted: 24 December 2024 at 2:25pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply
Vinnie inked my one issue of WEB OF SPIDER-MAN.

He was instructed by Shooter to heavily redraw the faces.

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Michael Penn
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Posted: 24 December 2024 at 2:42pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply
JB, I believe that was THE SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN #58. The faces are obviously redrawn.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 24 December 2024 at 3:16pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply
I do believe you’re right, Michael.

But, sorry, you know I have to ban you for contradicting me!!

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