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Peter Martin
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Posted: 30 May 2025 at 12:10am | IP Logged | 1 post reply
I'll add my voice to the argument that Cockrum should definitely have been allowed some measure of credit for his part in Wolverine. The haircut is all Cockrum -- and that is a substantive part these days of the movie character's design. Credit where credit is due.
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Eric Jansen
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Posted: 30 May 2025 at 4:42am | IP Logged | 2 post reply
At the very least, maybe Cockrum should get credit for co-creating Logan!  If Superboy and Superman are two different trademarks, why not the same for Logan, Clark Kent, Peter Parker, and more?  Some secret identities are practically separate characters and sometimes even more well-known than the costumed identity!

(Do Stan Lee and Steve Ditko get credit for Miles Morales?)
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Richard Stevens
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Posted: 30 May 2025 at 1:48pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply
Byrne and Cockrum each created at least 20% of the modern Wolverine, and anyone who says otherwise hasn't read the books.

Sadly, you'd probably have to give 10% to whoever made up his goofy patrician origin story, too.
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Vinny Valenti
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Posted: 30 May 2025 at 4:35pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply
Come on, both are responsible for much more than that.

Len Wein and John Romita created Wolverine as a teenager with regular bones and claws which are a part of the gloves.

Who was responsible for the reveal that the claws were a part of him? Was that Claremont or Cockrum?
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John Byrne

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Posted: 30 May 2025 at 5:10pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply
Most likely Chris and Dave together.
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Joseph Vecchio
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Posted: 31 May 2025 at 1:16am | IP Logged | 6 post reply
On a related note, I wrote all of Shakespeare's plays, and my wife and I wrote his sonnets.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 31 May 2025 at 6:04pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply
Can I borrow your time machine?

I promise to get it back to you before you even know it is gone!

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