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Phil Frances
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Posted: 02 October 2025 at 5:30am | IP Logged | 1 post reply
After Hegseth - no more fat troops, generals etc ; no facial hair ; compulsory PT daily, fitness tests every 6 months for senior staff . All on the basis apparently that Pete himself does 'hard PT' each day.

Maybe he does - but the rank and file have duties I'm sure, which might make obligatory PT sessions something else to cram into the schedule .

What a crock - especially when the Commander in Chief is a bloated orange know-nothing who dodged the draft and hates the 'suckers' in the military.

Fascism is alive, well and thriving in America - Hegseth being only one of the parade of 'officials' who ought never to have been granted any sort of influence.
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James Woodcock
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Posted: 02 October 2025 at 11:00am | IP Logged | 2 post reply
I think I am more concerned about his not so veiled threat
that the USA will no longer abide by the rules of war.

Didn't this government campaign on a platform of stopping
wars?
Department of war, no rules of war, desires to take over
other countries.

They keep using that word but I don't think it means what
they think it does.
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James Johnson
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Posted: 02 October 2025 at 2:06pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply
No worries.

One of the first things that Unqualified Pete did as Secretary of Defense was to remove all of the then current JAG officers and replaced them with loyalists.

So any orders that the troops are given will be followed.

I see that November 3rd 2026 will be a shitstorm the likes we never seen, but it's what the people wanted.

We ain't voting our way out of this.............
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Michael Casselman
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Posted: 02 October 2025 at 5:53pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply
What an embarassment. As prior service myself, I can't imagine what it felt like as a 20+year flag or general officer being told what to do by a National Guard Major with a predilection for hard drinking, sexual assault and White Nationalist tattoos. The only thing he's qualified to lecture on is how to apply and blend your makeup just so before you go on camera.

Oh, to have been a fly on the wall at the Quantico Officers Club that evening.

Implicitly pissing on the Geneva Convention, authorizing assault on recruits, sending EO policies back to the 1970's era... this guy is wacked out of his head.
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Phil Frances
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Posted: 02 October 2025 at 7:35pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply
This guy is wacked out of his head.

Unfortunately, he seems to have similar-minded company on all sides - not least the guy in charge who 'was right about everything'

At least Hegseth kept saying 'at my direction' - so when it all goes wrong (and it will) - there is no doubt about blame. Try rowing THAT one back, Peter !
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Peter Hicks
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Posted: 02 October 2025 at 10:45pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply
It was at least reassuring to hear from the journalists who cover Department of Defence, sorry, WAR, that the number one reaction was “this could have been an email”.  Number two reaction is that career General and Admirals are united in the opinion that somebody who only advanced as far as Major is not qualified for the job.  

It was also nice to hear the lack of enthusiastic applause that Trump and Hegseth thought they would receive.  Trump delivered his usual campaign rally ramblings.  That might rev up the blue collar base, but it fell flat with an audience of university or equivalent grads.  
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Michael Casselman
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Posted: 03 October 2025 at 1:15pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply
I'm not sure there would have been applause even if they were fully behind Hegseth's tirade. In my experience, when you get that much brass together and the room is called to attention, reactions are usually a bit more subdued than a typical audience. 

You could definitely tell Hegseth practiced his delivery as if he was in a 'normal' presentation setting, right down to the pauses. I've seen it suggested that the presentation wasn't even as much for those in attendance but for the audience it was streamed and recorded for, which is evident by his mugging for the camera. 

But, yeah... sir, this could have been a PowerPoint in an email...


Edited by Michael Casselman on 03 October 2025 at 2:02pm
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