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Edward Aycock
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Posted: 17 July 2026 at 12:10pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply
Dave, gays don't wanna claim him.  
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Michael Penn
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Posted: 17 July 2026 at 12:48pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply
I wonder if Princeton, Harvard, and the US Army disclaim him...?

(Yes, that's this berk's background.)
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Edward Aycock
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Posted: 17 July 2026 at 3:38pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply
Quite honestly, I've not been impressed with many of the Ivy league grads I've come across in politics or my own life.

Please don't take this a blanket condemnation.  But I think people raise Ivy League grads to a higher station than they deserve and people like me who started at a community college and then a state school (Go Minutemen!) are looked at as being on a lower plane than we deserve. 
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James Johnson
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Posted: 17 July 2026 at 4:21pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply
Same here Edward.

My nephew-in-law is an Ivy league graduate.  Not impressed. 

Like you, started at a community college for my associates degree.  Then finished with my bachelor's at a state university, and was able to parlay that into achieving many of my life's professional goals.

Go State Schools
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Michael Penn
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Posted: 17 July 2026 at 4:29pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply
Tangent: I went to Columbia... but my older son started at Nassau Community finished at Cortland, no loan debt, now owns a multi-million-dollar business, and my older daughter started at Nassau Community finished at Queens College, got two MAs, no loan debt, and is a well-paid, well-perked grade school teacher (and married to a surgical resident). My two younger ones will follow that path, for sure. 
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Dave Kopperman
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Posted: 17 July 2026 at 5:29pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply
The Ivy League isn't what it once was, particularly through the mid-1960s. But to deny what a key part of America's superpower dominance they were is kinda ludicrous. I think they can be that again.

Colleges aren't just for education (as important as that is); the most prestigious of them are historical crucibles that create change across society at every level.
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