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John Byrne

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Posted: 22 August 2026 at 11:42am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

It's hard to read dialogue written 50-60 years ago through current eyes. Stans "hip teenage language" in the original ASM is cringeworthy if you look at it with today's sensibilities. Read the Teen Brigade dialogue in the early Avengers stories and you will just shake your head.

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Walt Simonson, who was a close contemporary of Johnny Storm and Peter Parker at the time, has said Stan and Jack and Steve never presented him with “teenagers” who were like himself or any of his friends.

Being 4 years younger, I took the Marvel teens at face value. Maybe that was what I would become in a few years? (It wasn’t.)

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Brian Miller
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Posted: 22 August 2026 at 12:06pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

I could see Walt being cool enough to hang out with Johnny.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 22 August 2026 at 12:45pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

But was Johnny cool enough to hang out with Walt?
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Brian Miller
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Posted: 22 August 2026 at 3:52pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

THAT’s the question!
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