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Dave Kopperman
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Posted: 02 November 2026 at 9:20pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply
Yeah, my vegetarian diet owes itself to the general idea that I don't want anything to have to suffer (or die) so that I can continue to exist. Since we're the only species that can make THAT particular call, I tend to not judge anyone else for their own dietary choices.

It does mean that I have less of an issue eating something that was treated humanely, while it lived.
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Peter Martin
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Posted: 02 November 2026 at 9:37pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply
My dog interrupted a crow's funeral in the park a few years back. The crows were not happy. Our dog had disappeared down a path into some trees and we heard an enormous cacophony of cawing. We followed her to a clearing where she was rolling on the crow's carcass with the crows in the trees going mental.

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Dave Kopperman
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Posted: 02 November 2026 at 9:46pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply
A little further observation on losing our cat Alfred; I've been describing him as a load-bearing cat - it's amazing how much space such a tiny thing takes up. For the four remaining entities in our household - my wife, myself, Alfred's brother Diego, and our more recent addition Penelope (a feisty tuxedo stray that the cat delivery system dropped on us a couple of years ago) - it's like the Jupiter of our house suddenly blipped out of existence and all us remaining planets started adjusting our orbits.
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Bill Collins
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Posted: 03 November 2026 at 7:19am | IP Logged | 4 post reply
My main experience is with rescue dogs, and every single
one has shown deliberate signs of joy, even smiling in
their own way. So why do scientists doubt they experience
grief? Is it because certain scientists still experiment on
animals, and admitting they show emotion would make their
use even more horrific? My current rescue dog sits next to
me when i watch tv, he throws himself back so he's leaning
against me, his head is on my shoulder, or pressed against
mine.
I have watched a fair few tv shows about dog rescue
centre's and it's patently obvious a great deal of thos
dogs show real signs of depressio, sadnessn and grief.
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