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Todd Hembrough
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Very true Brian. But I guess he will have to be happy guest starring in the next Spider-Man movie.
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Brian Miller
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Yeah. They're only 2 movies too late with the wrong character.
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Matt Hawes
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Dave Pruitt wrote:
| Okay, so if someone was depicting a historical collage about WWII in a comic, and traced photos of the flag raising at Iwo Jima, The Enola Gay, Hitler, FDR, and the sailor kissing the girl, that would be unethical and violating copyrights? |
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Tracing, probably. Using as reference? Not so much. I mean, I've looked at a photo of a car for reference before. That's not tracing it, though. You need to have some reference as an artist at times.
As for tracing photos violating copyrights, that depends on the photos being used. Some artists take the pictures themselves. I don't think Alex Ross traces, but he sure does use photo reference and he takes the pictures (or pays to have them taken) himself. No violation of copyright law, there.
I think Greg Land is a talented artist who relys waaaay too much on tracing photographs these days. I liked his earlier "Nightwing" issues, when it looked to me as if he relied more on his own imagination. These days, Land seems to be too obsessed with using photos.
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Brian Miller
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I thought it was Mayhew that was doing all the tracing. It's Land? I'm pretty sure the King Of Spain thing was done by Mayhew.
Well, I was right about that particular issue.
http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&thread id=32257
Edited by Brian Miller on 26 August 2005 at 10:19am
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Matt Hawes
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Yes, Mayhew did the king of Spain, but Land has traced a number of pictures in his career. There are those "Sports Illustrated" swimsuit models and the like that he used for "Sojourn" nd other works.
Does anybody have examples? I've seen them posted on other boards before.
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Brian Miller
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Ah. Never read Sojourn. Kinda hate to hear this as I like his stuff.
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Todd Hembrough
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In this thread there is a lot of discussion of Greg Land's approach to
art. Is this "Art" when one takes this approach?
http://www.digitalwebbing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77409& amp;page=1&pp=15
Here are some pix:
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Brian Miller
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| Posted: 26 August 2005 at 10:48am | IP Logged | 8
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Is that even legal? Man, my opinion of Land is sure going down quick.
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Mig Da Silva
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That's what i've been saying all along (about Land), i don't even know how the guy hasn't been sued and put into a very serious financial situation yet!
(admitedly, i realise it's because the lawyers aren't seeing what he's doing - unlike the King of Spain's)
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He's also done it with Claudia Schiffer, Jessica Alba, and god knows how many... check Ultimate Fantastic Four, it's pretty much every panel, the covers, everything. I even wonder, what exactly, does he draw...
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Mig Da Silva
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Quote from Leonardo Da Vinci:
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| There are men who are discoverers and intermediaries and interpreters between Nature and Man, rather than boasters and declaimers of other people's work, and these must be admired and esteemed as the object in front of a mirror in comparison to the image seen in the mirror. The first is a real object in and of itself, the second is nothing. These people owe nothing to Nature; it is only good fortune that they wear a human form and if it weren't for this good fortune I'd classify them with the cattle and the animals. |
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Full text, worth reading, on art: http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~dee/REN/PAINTER.HTM
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He's also done it with Claudia Schiffer, Jessica Alba, and god knows how many... check Ultimate Fantastic Four, it's pretty much every panel, the covers, everything. I even wonder, what exactly, does he draw...
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Can you provide images or links? I'd like to see this.
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