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John Byrne

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Posted: 23 October 2026 at 9:59am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

PS - that’s not my handwriting on that colored Vision drawing.
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Brian Miller
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Posted: 23 October 2026 at 1:12pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

I did see some versions of it that DID look like your handwriting.

I hadn’t seen that interview before. Excellent backstory. Thanks for sharing
it.

Also didn’t know John Byrne was anti-Synthizite.
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Jason K Fulton
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Posted: 23 October 2026 at 7:43pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply


Very faint, but nothing I can do about that.
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Peter Martin
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Posted: 23 October 2026 at 7:57pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply


I played with the levels in photoshop to see if I could make it less faint.
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Brian Miller
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Posted: 23 October 2026 at 8:00pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Yeah, that’s what I saw before.
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Jason K Fulton
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Posted: 23 October 2026 at 8:51pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Would probably be...incredibly difficult for a recurring monthly character, but all black (like the Void) might have been neat / striking? I'm picturing all of those Havoc panels with all black and just energy effects.


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John Byrne

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Posted: 24 October 2026 at 10:32am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

A lot of comic artists have trouble with characters like that. When the figures are reduced to silhouettes, the arrangement of the limbs can become confusing.
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Jason K Fulton
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Posted: 24 October 2026 at 1:51pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

It sometimes trips me up, just reading the things. I'm still not entirely sure of which one of these is 'correct' (and I suppose it doesn't really matter, it works both ways):
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John Byrne

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Posted: 24 October 2026 at 2:39pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Of course, Frank’s art is deliberately challenging.
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Peter Hicks
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Posted: 24 October 2026 at 4:23pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

You can pick up the 11 X 17 original art version of The Dark Knight Returns, and you’ll see which way Frank drew it!
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Peter Martin
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Posted: 24 October 2026 at 4:49pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Interesting. My eye has never before now seen the DKR cover as anything other than the former (Batman with his back to the viewer), but looking online, it seems like Frank Miller drew it as the latter.
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Jason K Fulton
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Posted: 24 October 2026 at 4:50pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Yeah, I noticed they're doing a series right now showing that.

A lot of how I see comics is filtered through that nostalgia lens of being a kid. My brain registered the DKR cover as being his back, it's just always going to register that way for me. Maybe Frank was wrong!
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