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Mark McKay
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Posted: 28 July 2020 at 7:30am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

JB, will we learn why this Jean was becoming intangible?

Also, I am making an assumption that your original pages from Fantastic Four 286 (that we’re rewritten before publication) still hold true?

Just doing some sleuthing here.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 28 July 2020 at 7:35am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Careful! "Sleuthing" = speculation = potential spoilers.
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Steven Queen
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Posted: 28 July 2020 at 7:40am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Does the forestry fall into the category of "argle-bargle"? (Great word!)

Also, beautiful page today. Your Cyclops/Scott is the only one that looks right any more, and every glimpse of Jean-as-Phoenix is a visual treat too. Clean, simple lines, yet so expressive. My eyes soak it up so fast, I almost can't "see it" at first look.

While not evident today, had you considered that when you "whiten" certain elements post-scan (for effect), you are venturing into the field of digital painting? Padding your resume? :)

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John Byrne

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Posted: 28 July 2020 at 7:48am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Does the forestry fall into the category of "argle-bargle"?

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Mostly. Another instance where I kind of zone out, and when I come back someone has drawn the backgrounds for me.

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While not evident today, had you considered that when you "whiten" certain elements post-scan (for effect), you are venturing into the field of digital painting? Padding your resume? :)

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Already bin there! ANGEL - BLOOD AND TRENCHES was a black and white book with color, specifically snow and blood. And I did that on the scans.

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Luke Smyth
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Posted: 28 July 2020 at 7:51am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

This year has not been kind to all of us on many levels. Personally I’ve
suffered a number of losses that sent me to a very dark place. I can
honestly say that this series has been a consistent source of relief
throughout it all.

Heartfelt thanks for doing this and for the constant high quality of
entertainment over 40 plus years. Respect.
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Mark McKay
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Posted: 28 July 2020 at 7:53am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Careful! "Sleuthing" = speculation = potential spoilers.

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Fair enough! I'll try to keep it in my own head.

(Sometimes I can't help myself, especially seeing a page a day).
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Richard Stevens
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Posted: 28 July 2020 at 8:02am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

That big shot of Scott with the Phoenix is such a great figure. Scott looks lean, but strong and flexible – the kind of guy who could survive a drop from a massive height with nothing but eye beams to slow him down. 
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Michael Genitempo
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Posted: 28 July 2020 at 8:02am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Fair enough! I'll try to keep it in my own head.

(Sometimes I can't help myself, especially seeing a page a day).
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I feel you Mark. Very hard to hold back sometimes, especially when I *think* I know where JB is going... And of course, I'm almost always wrong... Damn that Byrne and his twists...
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John Byrne

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Posted: 28 July 2020 at 8:13am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

..nothing but eye beams...

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Only in comics could eye beams become a "nothing but"!

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Steven Queen
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Posted: 28 July 2020 at 8:14am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Re: ANGEL - BLOOD AND TRENCHES.

I've been out-of-comics for a long while. That looks awesome! In the sneek-peek on Amazon, there's a quality to the art that has in some ways has a very different style. I wouldn't guess it was yours in many of the panels (others definitively, yes). More shading perhaps because of a pencils-only format?

I always treasured your Baron Blood vampire run in Captain America as well.

Exciting!
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John Byrne

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Posted: 28 July 2020 at 8:23am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

BLOOD AND TRENCHES was pencils only, but, unlike ELSEWHEN, it was pencils that were not intended to be inked. So, a whole tonal "experience".

(I sometimes wonder if there are A-B&T pages I have sold that have ended up in the tender loving care of someone who felt they would be improved by inking. And, sadly, I know some inkers who would do it without hesitation.)

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Steven Queen
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Posted: 28 July 2020 at 8:24am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

I have been trying to resist being a simulationist/RPG/nit-picker...but since y'all brought it up...

I really liked how Cyclops once used his pulsed optic-blasts to slow down Wolerine's fall at the end of the Proteus saga (perhaps my all-time favorite story-line in the X-men). That application totally works for me.

But...if Cyclops' beam "push back at him" via Newton's-Law to slow him down when falling, then aren't they also pushing him horizontally every time he uses them?

Sorry, I've got an engineer's brain that won't shut up.

EDIT:  Maybe that's why he often "leans into them"...


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