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James Woodcock
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| Posted: 23 December 2024 at 2:42am | IP Logged | 1
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Trump has said tariffs on the Panama Canal should be lowered
Owners have said get lost
Trump has said it belongs to America.
Couple this with his comments about Canada should become the 51st state
& I’m seeing a lot of dangerous talk from the orange one. Backed up by his
jingoistic clans, including Musk.
Scary stuff.
But some things puzzle me. Musk is posting about the debt being too high.
Trump tried to get a bill through that removed the ceiling for two years.
Musk builds electric cars, Trump slags them off every chance he gets.
These two are not on the same page to the degree they say they are
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Brian Miller
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| Posted: 23 December 2024 at 4:13am | IP Logged | 2
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Musk won’t be long for the administration once Trump starts seeing
everyone’s comments about Elon being the one running things.
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Trevor Smith
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| Posted: 23 December 2024 at 10:30am | IP Logged | 3
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Trump is SO very clearly an admirer of the Putin way.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 23 December 2024 at 2:43pm | IP Logged | 4
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All the years I lived in Canada there were speculations about the country becoming the “51st state”. Used to bug me no end. Just like the USA, Canada is not a single entity. It is composed of thirteen parts, each of which is fiercely independent. And many of which nurture an abiding loathing of their southern neighbor. If, somehow, they agreed to joining the US, it would be as states 51 thru 63, not as one lump.
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Richard Stevens
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| Posted: 23 December 2024 at 2:50pm | IP Logged | 5
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63 states that hated the U.S. government would go a long way towards fixing the Senate, at least. I'm not sure if I'm kidding.
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Vinny Valenti
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| Posted: 23 December 2024 at 2:51pm | IP Logged | 6
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I'm sure Quebec would have their own opinion about that!
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Daniel Gillotte
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| Posted: 23 December 2024 at 3:34pm | IP Logged | 7
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I'm trying not to get too hung up on what *rump says as what they effectively try to do BUT the carelessness with which he says stuff is simply astonishing. Feckless is too light a word but we have the most powerful person in the world being completely iresponsible, thoughtless and careless nearly every time he speaks. To casually toss off shiz about essentially annexing our neighbors or "taking back" the Panama Canal has effect on the stability of the world. Do you remember Reagan getting absolutely hung about the we start bombing in 5 minutes gaffe? That was ONCE, everytime *rump speaks he does the equivalent.
Putin, Erdrogan and *rump's prominence reinforce my sad feeling that a lot of humans just like themselves a daddy warlord. It sucks and its demoralizing and dangerous.
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Peter Martin
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| Posted: 23 December 2024 at 3:57pm | IP Logged | 8
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I suspect Trump's position on all these things is part of his low cunning to start with an extreme position, so as to later achieve a better compromise agreement. The fallout, of course, is the world seeing a US President casually threaten to break a treaty signed by a previous US President and consequently undermining the position of the US as a trustworthy counterparty
Edited by Peter Martin on 23 December 2024 at 3:58pm
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Daniel Gillotte
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Maybe, Peter, we can't read hi mind, of course. But I just don't think he's that strategic. His last administration and the start of this one continues to involve a lot of flailing it seems with statments made and dropped on a seeming whim or within a fugue state in a speech.
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James Woodcock
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| Posted: 23 December 2024 at 9:25pm | IP Logged | 10
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& now he’s back on buying Greenland again.
He really does not seem to understand that as you go up the tree, you
should use less words.
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Peter Hicks
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| Posted: 23 December 2024 at 11:02pm | IP Logged | 11
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Trump is just throwing sticks for the news media to chase, and unfortunately they continue to do so. Trump prefers for the public to focus on Canada, Greenland, and the Panama Canal, than focus on the stuff he campaigned on, like ending inflation, peace in Ukraine and the Middle East, and deporting 11 million illegal migrants.
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