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Anthony castrillo
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Vlad-The fade on the Earth-photoshop?
Amazing what a little in can do.
Stellar(no pun intended)!!

mac
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Anthony J Lombardi
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The more i see of Vlad and Darren's inking .The more and more i'm convinced that inkers are so much more than just tracers. Fantastic work Vlad
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Vladimir Fiks
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 Matthew T. Carpenter, Sr. wrote:

Looks great.  Also digging your inks on the other forum as well.  Lot's
of good imput from them.



Thanks Matthew, that's nice to hear.

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Vladimir Fiks
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 Anthony castrillo wrote:
Vlad-The fade on the Earth-photoshop?
Amazing what a little in can do.
Stellar(no pun intended)!!

mac


Thanks dude,

Actually the whole thing is done in Photoshop, but the earth is a photo
that has been modified in several different ways.

Vlad
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Vladimir Fiks
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 Anthony J Lombardi wrote:
The more i see of Vlad and Darren's inking
.The more and more i'm convinced that inkers are so much more than
just tracers. Fantastic work Vlad


:) Yeah, that's an old story. I used to beat my head against the wall trying
to convince people as to how crucial an inker can be to a job, now I'm
older and just shrug it off. Of course there is a trace of truth to the
statement, there are some guys (especially in the last ten years or so) who
are great draftsman with perfect control, but who add very little to the
art. Oh well, different strokes and all that.

Thanks,
Vlad
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Anthony castrillo
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Vladimir Fiks
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 Anthony castrillo wrote:



Cool! Got a high rez scan of the pencils?

Vlad


Edited by Vladimir Fiks on 09 June 2005 at 7:25pm
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Anthony castrillo
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Vlad-
Ill send it to you tomorrow
Bed time, meeting in the morning.
Goodnight gentlemen.
Anthony-did not have time today to scan.Will e-mail you after
meeting.
MAC
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Guest79877180
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Vlad - odd question here.  Does your hand stick or catch on the surface of your WACOM when you're inking?  If so, how do you combat it?
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Glenn Brown
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 Anthony castrillo wrote:
The final layout for litho.
Darren,Vlad, Anthony? Suggestions,comments?
Red marker if you see any tangents or bad composition.
Thanks,
MAC

MAC, you didn't ask me specifically for any comments, but if I may...

The problem I see with your layout is that there doesn't appear to be a central focus within the composition for the eye to use as a point of balance.  What I mean by "balance" is how the weight of the compositional elements within the drawing are distributed.  There are no hard and fast rules where this is concerned, as there are different forms of design: symmetrical, asymmetrical, random, etc.  But its always good to approach a composition with a design goal in mind, IMO.  Otherwise, a composition can appear cluttered or haphazard, with figures just flying off in all different areas and appearing pasted on.  

Not saying this is the case with your layout; just sharing some background thoughts on design and composition.

One way to approach a piece like this is to try and create a design "shape" involving the elements within the picture.  Basic shapes; a pyramid (or inverted pyramid), a sphere, and so on.  You have a strong base (someone already pointed out that the two figures on the lower left, Archer and Armstrong I think, are juxtaposed a bit awkardly next to each other), but the power of that base isn't held up by the figures in the upper half.  Those figures, to my eye, aren't as carefully and creatively placed and just appear to be hanging in space...whereas the figures on the lower plane appear to be posed atop a base of some kind.  The composition therefore doesn't appear unified.

Solar's figure is distracting to my eye.  The leaning angle of his figure leads my eye right out of the picture before it's supposed to...and the figures to his left appear to be just pasted on (hence, the large area of negative space between them, Solar and NightMan (I think that's his name).

I suggest positioning the characters in the sky in such a way that they draw the eye DOWN towards the figures standing on the base, primarily Turok and Magnus (is that the name?  The guy w/ the "M" on his belt buckle).  THAT space appears to be the forward thrust of your entire composition, and all the visual motion of the characters should be directed towards that space, IMO.

Anthony, I'm confident that you'll recognize that I'm not being critical for criticism's sake.  You're a pro and I think you'll recognize what I'm talking about with the terms I used, even if they may be unfamiliar to some of the guys less experienced than you and I may be.

I got a lot out of Andrew Loomis' books regarding these issues, specifically Creative Illustration and Three-Dimensional Drawing (the revised edition of Successful Drawing; same book with extra pages).  Very hard to find books and expensive if you do; but well worth it to the working illustrator.  Neal Adams has also had some interesting things to say about design and composition in various interviews he's given.

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Vladimir Fiks
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 Matthew T. Carpenter, Sr. wrote:
Vlad - odd question here.  Does your
hand stick or catch on the surface of your WACOM when you're inking?  If
so, how do you combat it?


I never had my hand catch on anything on the surface, but when it's really
hot and there is perspiration on the hand it does sometimes stick to the
plastic overlay. The only thing, other that turning on the air conditioning,
I can suggest is to often wipe your hand.

Vlad
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Anthony castrillo
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Glenn-Show me.
MAC
Sorry about that, it wasn't meant as a command. Let me see
what you have in mind. Red line the art, i really want feedback
from everyone who wishes to give it.
Thanks all.
MAC
Now i gotta go, meeting at 10 am.


Edited by Anthony castrillo on 10 June 2005 at 7:31am
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