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Mal Gardiner
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Joined: 28 April 2008
Location: Australia
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Posted: 16 August 2019 at 4:18pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

The way you’re using speech balloons to move us around the page is just brilliant, chief. In the latest page that top right to bottom left transition via the parents in the middle is a lesson in page construction AND designing a panel to accommodate text while moving the story. 

Same goes for the couple of panels between Nightcrawler and Spider-man where the balloon tail crosses the panel border. Simple yet brilliant.
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Shane Matlock
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Joined: 12 August 2012
Location: United States
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Posted: 18 August 2019 at 10:06am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Great to see Spider-Man showing up. Been waiting a week to read more so I get a few pages to read, but it's tough!
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Richard Knapp
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Joined: 25 June 2012
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Posted: 19 August 2019 at 7:25am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

"Something is approaching the house from the north..."

Nice Forbidden Planet vibe from that one!
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John Byrne

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Joined: 11 May 2005
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Posted: 19 August 2019 at 7:28am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Nice Forbidden Planet vibe from that one!

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I wondered how many of you would pick up on that! :-)

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Steve Gumm
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Posted: 19 August 2019 at 7:52am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Another nice page.... JB you have made me look forward to MONDAYS! Who'da thought that was even possible?!?


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Wallace Sellars
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Posted: 19 August 2019 at 2:29pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

This is the first chance I've had to check the forum since early this morning. This page was worth the wait!
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Mark McKay
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Joined: 16 April 2004
Location: United States
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Posted: 19 August 2019 at 9:21pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Q for JB:  on the panel with the flyer, how do you imagine the underside of the flyer being inked? Are you indicating black with your shading? 


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Philippe Pinoli
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Joined: 03 September 2004
Location: France
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Posted: 20 August 2019 at 1:54am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

JB, your storytelling remains unrivaled, here we
are, back to page 1 to 4, with another open subplot
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John Byrne

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Posted: 20 August 2019 at 6:39am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Q for JB: on the panel with the flyer, how do you imagine the underside of the flyer being inked? Are you indicating black with your shading?

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Yes.

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Michael Genitempo
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Posted: 20 August 2019 at 6:43am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

I see something new with every read... Like the 4 panels that are darker with the nighttime, and the window pattern on Willie's parents, a few pages back...
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John Byrne

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Posted: 20 August 2019 at 7:02am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

The way you’re using speech balloons to move us around the page is just brilliant, chief.

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Want to take a moment to comment on this (and say thanks!).

When I started out at Charlton I was doing my own lettering--a kind description!--and I gave little or no thought to the actual placement of the balloons and captions, Didn't really even think about them when I was drawing the panels. I had a standard rule in those days: don't put anything important in the top third of the panel. Most of the copy went there.

Even with that, tho, I made what I now see as boneheaded mistakes--like having copy in the top third of two adjacent panels, but in the first also having dialog in the lower left corner. The eye would instinctively read straight across, and that additional copy would often be missed. Even rereading my own stuff I made this goof.

Slowly I began to think of the balloons and captions as PART of the art. That their position on the page was, as you note, intended to guide the readers eyes. This would allow for some fairly complex panel layouts to be rendered easy to read, as the balloons and captions acted as roadmarks.

One of the reasons I got especially annoyed when editors moved my balloons and captions without checking with me.

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Eric Ladd
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Joined: 16 August 2004
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Posted: 20 August 2019 at 8:00am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Page 12 is a nice one. Insane lightning effect, a crash, varying fields of depth, down-shot camera angle, great close up of Storm and the list goes on.
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