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John Byrne

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Posted: 03 November 2021 at 8:45am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

It’s my opinion that it’s training. Want to avoid the Nightcrawler effect: too many powers   

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ron bailey
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Posted: 03 November 2021 at 8:51am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Are you counting the swashbuckling? Because that is clearly from training :)  < id="protanopia"> < id="deuteranopia"> < id="tritanopia">
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John Byrne

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Posted: 03 November 2021 at 9:28am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

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Michael Penn
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Posted: 03 November 2021 at 11:51am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

It's for the best, I think, to stick to 1-mutation per mutant. It serves neither a character nor the concept of comicbook mutants well to expand upon that. Logan has his healing factor, done. His heightened senses, if I recall correctly, seem to have been written by Chris Claremont as super-human -- but it would be good to back away from that. Not everything about a mutant superhero should part of the mutation -- e.g., Wolverine was subject to bersker rages, but that wasn't a special mutation.

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Vinny Valenti
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Posted: 03 November 2021 at 12:03pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Interesting discussion. Though I suppose it's a bit of a stretch, I felt like heightened senses and healing factor fell under the same umbrella of enhancement of existing human abilities.

But honestly, outside of sense of smell, I hadn't seen much done with the other senses. 
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 03 November 2021 at 12:13pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Frank Miller established that Daredevil's powers were just training and that the effect of the radiation wore off long ago.

Stick assured Matt that the "powers" he had were just sensitivities which everyone has, but never bother to develop properly.

Seems like maybe Logan has bothered to prove Stick right.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 03 November 2021 at 12:35pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

A lot of readers got hung up on him being called Wolverine if “all” he had was the healing factor. How did that connect to wolverines?
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Brad Monje
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Posted: 03 November 2021 at 2:49pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Something that I found of interest recently, was how long it took before Wolverine was shown to have any mutant power.  He definitely seemed harder to kill than the average person, but his healing factor wasn't ever really spoken of until X-Men 116.  Xavier said he was a mutant but what his power was, wasn't really that clear for quite a while as far as I could tell.  
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Michael Hogan
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Posted: 03 November 2021 at 3:42pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

I assumed the “Wolverine” appellation was because he was only 5’3” but
willing to fight much bigger opponents, not unlike the animal which is his
namesake. I didn’t think it had anything to do with his status as a mutant.
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ron bailey
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Posted: 03 November 2021 at 3:45pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

I thought it was his ferocity coupled with a suggestion as to where he hails from. Oh, and the claws.  < id="protanopia"> < id="deuteranopia"> < id="tritanopia">
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Andrew Bitner
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Posted: 04 November 2021 at 6:19am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

It's a great name.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 04 November 2021 at 7:09am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Wolverine’s name falls very much within the original Marvel “style guide”, where Stan and the gang gave us several characters whose names evoked their primary characteristics without actually describing them. Cyclops springs to mind. Quicksilver. Medusa.

It has a lot to do with being able to pick someone out of a group based solely on the name.

(The ANAD X-Men kinda stumbled out of the gate on this one, with Stan famously thinking Storm was Banshee, and Nightcrawler was Wolverine.)

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