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John Byrne
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Is it contagious?••• Well, those double Ls do require an almost cough…
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Bill Collins
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| Posted: 08 June 2025 at 4:24pm | IP Logged | 2
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https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/whats-on/23-parts-west-
midlands-only-31787903
Coincidentally, this popped up on my Facebook feed.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 08 June 2025 at 5:11pm | IP Logged | 3
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Darn—link doesn’t work.
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Vinny Valenti
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| Posted: 08 June 2025 at 6:59pm | IP Logged | 4
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Hmm, it worked for me - maybe try as a direct LINK instead?
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 08 June 2025 at 7:14pm | IP Logged | 5
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Thanks, Vinny. Interesting to see my birthplace, Walsall, on the list—and NOT pronounced as I was taught. They say “Warsaw”, but my parents said “Warsull”.
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James Woodcock
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| Posted: 08 June 2025 at 9:55pm | IP Logged | 6
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It’s Warsull.
You were taught correctly.
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Jim Muir
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That’s interesting, I’ve never heard it pronounced anything other than Woll-
Sorl.
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John Byrne
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To add to the problem, I am very visually oriented (d’uh!) which means once I have SEEN a word/name it can be very difficult for me to apply a pronunciation other than what I’ve seen. This is especially vexing in the case of Walsall, since I heard the name before I saw it, but once I did see it my tongue started tripping over it.
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James Woodcock
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Truth be told, there are a lot of micro dialects in this small area.
I would say the following are ways I have heard it pronounced
War-sull
Warl-sull
Woll-sorl
The one I’ve never heard is war-saw which is the version the article claims.
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James Woodcock
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I would say, though, that the rest of that article is pretty spot on.
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Bill Collins
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| Posted: 09 June 2025 at 6:27am | IP Logged | 11
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Yes it's mostly War-sull, but i have heard radio/tv
presenters say Warl-sull.
Interesting to see the Welsh village with the long name and
it reminded me of Llangollen where the first LL is
pronounced "CL" but the second "LL" is pronounced "THL"
So it's "Clangothlen" with a sort of cough/Klingon emphasis
on the "CL"
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Paul W. Sondersted, Jr.
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For some "strange" reason, this thread reminds me of The Bookshop Sketch with John Cleese & Marty Feldman...
Enjoy!
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