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Eric Jansen
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Posted: 04 April 2022 at 4:11pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

"Marvel Preview Presents"?!?

Of course I loved this book, but I also have fond memories of the Doug Moench & Sienkiewicz issue and the Moench/Colan MARVEL SUPER SPECIAL--that's a forgotten gem of a graphic novel.  Ah, what could have been.
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Brian Miller
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Posted: 04 April 2022 at 5:54pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Thanks, Mark.
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Rebecca Jansen
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Posted: 07 April 2022 at 8:20pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

I had some of the other Star-Lord magazines including the first one, which I now wish I still had of course (along with Hulk #271). Infantino did a couple of the later ones. I really wanted to get into the character but despite grabbing everything I could find he never grew on me much. The guy in the movie and cartoons has a lot more personality! The special edition color comic reprint was one of the first direct titles I remember buying and that is the only Star-Lord I still have (along with Marvel Fanfare #1 &2)... being art-centric I kept the 'wrong' ones I suppose so far as 'key' issues go. The living ship (they also had one in Power Pack, X-Factor and some other Marvels, goes back to I think Anne McCaffery short sf's The Ship That Sang. Blake's 7 on tv had one I vaguely remember too.

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James Woodcock
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Posted: 07 April 2022 at 11:54pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

I met Star Lord, like a lot of Marvel space characters, in Star Wars Weekly.

That was a comic and a half for these characters in the late ‘70s & early
‘80s.
Star Lord, Warlok, Micronauts, War of the Worlds & a whole plethora of
other stories as the backup strips, not to mention the old Steve Ditko short
fantasy stories which were repackaged as Tales of the Watcher.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 08 April 2022 at 6:48am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

A lot of writers and artists, in recent years, have used "create" as if it's an ongoing activity. Writing and drawing the first adventure of Captain Fonebone indeed qualifies as an act of creation (even if the good Captain is influenced by previously existing creations, as was Superman). The next adventure/issue is, as noted, extrapolation. Creative, but not creation. (Moments of creation may be peppered thru CF's subsequent tales. The introduction of a girlfriend, a best pal, an enemy. These can be individual acts of creation.)

As someone who has actually created characters (Alpha Flight, for instance) I'll admit it annoys me when I hear people claiming "creation" when all they have done is put a new (and perhaps not so new) twist on an existing character.

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Michael Penn
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Posted: 08 April 2022 at 7:17am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

I love this malapropism: "...in resent years..."!
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John Byrne

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Posted: 08 April 2022 at 7:23am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Guk!! Fixed!!
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John Byrne

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Posted: 08 April 2022 at 7:56am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Might be worth mentioning here again my tongue in cheek reference to my having created Venom. Runs like this:

Back in the IRON FIST days I had an idea that the costume Danny wore was actually "alive", and when it got torn up, rather than young Mr Rand sitting off in a corner with a needle and thread, it actually "healed".

I didn't get around to using this idea, but I had mentioned it to Roger Stern, and one day when he was working on Spider-Man during the black and white alien costume period, Rog asked if he could use it. I said sure, and thus was born the "simbiote" costume.

Which subseqiently led to Venom, when some additional details were tacked on to the existing concept.

So, you see, like so many characters. the "creation" of Venom was actually an extended group effort.

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Peter Martin
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Posted: 08 April 2022 at 9:08am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

The self-repairing costume is a pretty nifty idea. A bit like the transporters in Star Trek -- saves the storyteller and the story consumer from the bits that aren't all that interesting.
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Vinny Valenti
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Posted: 08 April 2022 at 9:33am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

"I'll admit it annoys me when I hear people claiming "creation" when all they have done is put a new (and perhaps not so new) twist on an existing character."

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"Nightwing created by Marv Wolfman and George Perez" irks me for that reason.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 08 April 2022 at 10:09am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

I’m deliberately not naming names. The list would be long.
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Rick Whiting
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Posted: 08 April 2022 at 9:23pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

IIRC, Kurt Busiek has said that he considers himself the creator of Songbird, despite her being a renamed/revamped version of Screaming Mimi. IMO, (and any latter creator who revamps an existing character) should be credited only as revamping or reinventing the character.
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