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John Byrne

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Posted: 09 April 2022 at 4:59am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Hm. Comicvine lists the creators of Songbird as Mark Gruenwald, Ralph Macchio and………me!

I have no memory of my part in this genesis.

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Jörg Schneider
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Posted: 09 April 2022 at 6:06am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

You're the penciler of Marvel Two-in-One #54 which is the characters first appearance. (as Screaming Mimi of the Grapplers)  Gruenwald and Macchio were the writers of that issue.

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John Byrne

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Posted: 09 April 2022 at 7:09am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Ah, yes. And the Grapplers were based on Kirby’s Female Furies.

The “creation” process grows more and more attenuated.

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John Byrne

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Posted: 09 April 2022 at 9:09am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Something that gives a different perspective on the question of “creation”:

At a con, decades ago, Chris mentioned he’d created a new character he intended to call “Psycho”. The premise was a mutant with MPD, with each of his personalities having a different power.

As it happened, I’d had the same idea, only I’d dubbed my guy “Legion”, invoking the Biblical quote “My name is Legion, for we are many.”

I thought Legion was a more user friendly name than Psycho, and told Chris he could take it if he wished. Which he did.

So, am I a co-creator of Legion?

(Hint: I don’t think so.)

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Brian Miller
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Posted: 09 April 2022 at 9:35am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

If the different personality/ different power was part of your angle, I’d say
yes. Since that aspect came along with the name that was used.

Did either of you make him Xavier’s son at the time?
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Steve Coates
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Posted: 09 April 2022 at 9:42am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

No, an idea is not a creation. 
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John Byrne

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Posted: 09 April 2022 at 9:59am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Did either of you make him Xavier’s son at the time?

•••

Not me, certainly. You seem to be misunderstanding the degree of my involvement. Which is, not surprisingly, how confusion over acts of “creation” often arises.

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Brian Miller
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Posted: 09 April 2022 at 10:09am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

The bean-counters had determined that the only hope X-MEN had for any
kind of future was if the book could be made a monthly. Which Archie knew
Dave couldn’t handle. So Dave had to go—but first Archie needed a
replacement team lined up.

He began that quest by approaching Terry. If I could be gotten to pencil,
Archie asked, would Terry be interested in inking? Terry said yes…

… It wasn’t until about 12 years ago that I was chatting with Terry and
something I said made him realize I did not know the real story—which he
then told me.

*******

I’m into the second Omnibus volume now and it contains an essay by Terry
in which he explains this very thing.

He also mentions how the two of you suggested Grainger stay on to ink
UXM to keep continuity in the art and Terry go to MT-U to ink you there and
Archie said “no.”
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John Byrne

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Posted: 09 April 2022 at 10:14am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Yes, I was very concerned that the passing of the baton be as easy on the readers as possible. But Archie wouldn’t hear it.
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Brian Miller
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Posted: 09 April 2022 at 10:47am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Archie seemed very fond of the Byrne/Austin combo. Very wise, that one.
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