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Brian Miller
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| Posted: 18 August 2025 at 11:24pm | IP Logged | 1
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I just had this recollection from when I was a youngster and reading comics.
So, I felt pretty good knowing the differences in what a penciller does and
what an inker does. What always flummoxed me was when there was a
collaboration between the two and they would both sign a piece. Think
“Byrne/Austin” on an X-MEN cover. You recognized that was JB’s distinct
signature and Austin’s, as well. They were both in ink so it just baffled me
that the inker could ink the signature so well it looked just like the
penciller’s signature. You see, I was under the assumption that whoever did
the pencils signed it in pencil, as well. Never dawned on me the penciller
could actually use ink on a piece! I thought ONLY the inker could apply inks
to the page!
Ah, youth.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 18 August 2025 at 11:44pm | IP Logged | 2
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After my parents and I moved to Canada, various British relatives used to send me copies of the hardcover Superman and Batman “annuals” that I had started collecting while still on t’other side of the Atlantic. I was nine, ten, eleven, and not wise enough to realize some of the copy had been relettered to reflect English spelling, so I wondered why Batman and Robin sent badguys to GOAL.
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James Woodcock
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| Posted: 19 August 2025 at 5:58am | IP Logged | 3
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It was years before I too recognised that words were changed for spelling -
I think I noticed the different font before I clocked the reason why.
Same with books.
Of course this doesn’t seem to happen now, which coincides with an
increase in American spelling being encountered by British kids..
In fact, I’m seeing an increase in American spelling in Europe as well, and
often have to correct spellings on reports in the European projects I work
on, as they become littered with a mix of spellings. It becomes a case of
‘We need to pick one and use that throughout’.
Thread drift, but a funny thing:
In the UK, while our emergency number is 999, we now have to also have
911 work because so many people, kids especially, think it is 911 from
watching American tv shows.
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Colin Ian Campbell
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| Posted: 19 August 2025 at 12:41pm | IP Logged | 4
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I was nine, ten, eleven, and not wise enough to realize some of the copy had been relettered to reflect English spelling, so I wondered why Batman and Robin sent badguys to GOAL.* I think you mean gaol.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 19 August 2025 at 1:14pm | IP Logged | 5
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I think you miss my point.
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Vinny Valenti
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| Posted: 19 August 2025 at 1:25pm | IP Logged | 6
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Tom Orzechowski's unique lettering style became syonymous with Chris Claremont in my youth, to the point that I assumed that the letterer was also the scripter of comics. But then I read an issue of NEW MUTANTS and it was jarring to me to see his letters over a clearly Louise Simonson script.
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Peter Martin
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| Posted: 19 August 2025 at 2:01pm | IP Logged | 7
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Gaol really is an antiquated British spelling.
I can understand Oscar Wilde submitting the Ballad of Reading Goal to the sports section of the Berkshire Chronicle, but my Monopoly board from when I was a child had 'Go to Jail!' (and it was the English Monopoly with Old Kent Road, Whitechapel, Mayfair, etc.).
When I was say 12 years old, I remember reading a description of the Marvel Method (I think it was Gruenwald in an issue of Captain America IIRC), but I didn't really get it. The words said at Marvel we do things differently and the artist draws the story and the writer adds the words. And I didn't really comprehend the implied difference to full script, all the decisions that were left in the hands of the artist and how loose the plot was before the artist got their hands on it. Was only really many years later it really sunk in, with things like learning how Kirby had added the Surfer, and how it saved Stan so much time doing the Marvel Method and so on that it really sunk in how it worked.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 19 August 2025 at 2:18pm | IP Logged | 8
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Gaol really is an antiquated British spelling.••• Since those British hardcovers were being published in the late Fifties and early Sixties, I don’t know what qualifies as “antiquated”.
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Joe Smith
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| Posted: 19 August 2025 at 3:29pm | IP Logged | 9
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This thread is my first experience with the word gaol.
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Trevor Smith
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The goal/gaol thing reminds me (and I've probably mentioned
this before) of my love for the old Gold Key barbarian
title, "Danger the Invisible", or so my five-ish year old
brain read it.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 19 August 2025 at 4:37pm | IP Logged | 11
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Mike Carlin tells of being a kid and reading the adventures of the FLONGATED MAN.Seems the art would often clip the bottom of the E.
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Edward Aycock
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| Posted: 19 August 2025 at 4:55pm | IP Logged | 12
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I thought Illyana had a "Souls Word".
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