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John Byrne

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Posted: 30 July 2018 at 5:58am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I'd be very shocked if this issue never got officially published in one form or another...It just looks so good. And it's ready !

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Well, Scott Dunbier at IDW is ready to turn it into an ARTISTS EDITION at the drop of a hat! But that would be a VERY skinny volume!!!

Maybe I should get started on the second issue.

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John Byrne

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Posted: 30 July 2018 at 6:05am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

The count is showing less than 800 views -- with over 1000 replies! ARGH!
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Eric Ladd
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Posted: 30 July 2018 at 6:22am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Do scans of the pencils for the ARTIST EDITION just in case and I don't think Mr. Dunbier would mind if you started a second issue to fatten up the ARTIST EDITION release. =)
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John Byrne

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Posted: 30 July 2018 at 6:24am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

There's a microscopically thin slice of my brain that still wants to give Marvel "first refusal".
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Steve Gumm
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Posted: 30 July 2018 at 6:30am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

-- Maybe I should get started on the second issue.

Yes, maybe you should : )
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Brennan Voboril
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Posted: 30 July 2018 at 6:33am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

An Artist Edition, or a portfolio (and IDW has made some awfully nice ones), would be fantastic!  I think it would be amazing to see these printed directly from the pencils at full size.  I think that would be the best way of seeing them.  
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John Byrne

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Posted: 30 July 2018 at 6:50am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Titan Comics recently released a ARTISTS EDITION style volume of THE PRISONER, unpublished pages by Jack Kirby and Gil Kane. Only two comics, so a lot of filler in the back. Part of this was reprinting one of the issues at two pages per page, with the script pages alongside. I suppose something like that could "thicken" an XMEW book.
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Stéphane Garrelie
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Posted: 30 July 2018 at 6:59am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Ah! So this is where this thread was hinding!
Wondering now how i could not see it, given i frequently look in the closed X-Men Elsewhen art only thread.

So, i can finnaly say thanks for this. These are the X-Men i love. 


Edited by Stéphane Garrelie on 30 July 2018 at 7:01am
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John Byrne

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These are the X-Men i love.

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Another confession (which I have made before): these were not the REAL X-Men to me. I wanted to do an X-Men comic SO BAD, but at the time this was all there was (and Marvel was not interested in a HIDDEN YEARS style book).

So I accepted the assignment of drawing these guys, and eventually climbed out of Dave Cockrum's shadow and actully started enjoying myself. I liked the characters*, and they were fun to draw. But Cyclops, Marvel Girl, Angel, Beast and Iceman -- THOSE were the REAL X-Men!

Funny, then, to find myself doing this particular exercise!

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* Eventually that went away. As Chris and I argued more and more over the proper interpretation of the characters, and as he constantly overruled me with his scripts, I came to the realization that what the fans were seeing was Chris' version, and if that was what the fans liked, then these were characters I didn't like. So I left.

(Over the years, people have asked me how it might have gone if Chris had left and I had stayed, assuming the role of writer. But I don't think that could have happened. I was so off-put by how Chris handled them, I really could not have picked up those reigns.)

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Jason K Fulton
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Posted: 30 July 2018 at 7:16am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

The idea that we would have missed out on your FF run is horrifying.
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Michael Penn
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Posted: 30 July 2018 at 7:18am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

The Claremont Reign, indeed.

The test, for me personally, about whether the X-Men are done right is how Cyclops is handled. The more he is like the Lee-Kirby version, the better the entire team -- even the "new" team (and I, like JB, can't think of anything but the originals as the real X-Men). What I see in JB's new pencil practice here is Cyclops as he should be.


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John Byrne

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Posted: 30 July 2018 at 7:20am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Mind you, as I have said, in all seriousness, Chris took the book to the top of the top, once I was gone. I must have been holding him back.
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