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Paul Wills
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Posted: 09 September 2024 at 3:50pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

ELSEWHEN pg 28
MODOK!



Edited by Paul Wills on 09 September 2024 at 3:57pm
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Darren Taylor
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Posted: 10 September 2024 at 4:48pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Nice one Paul! In the first panel I can see something that I also fall victim to and that's ultra thin lines!

Paul Neary used to tell me to remember that you are drawing/inking for reduction. So the shrinking process is something to ensure you are aware of while you are inking.

Some lines that look good on the original art, move to looking to feathery when reduced.

I've no idea if that is useful to you or not but I try and remind myself all the time, that the image will be reduced.

Really like the last panel.
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Paul Wills
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Posted: 11 September 2024 at 4:51am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Thanks Darren! Yes, so true about the line reduction! I always think I have a handle on it and then once I see it reduced....
Such good advice from one of my favorite inkers - Paul Neary 
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Dave Kopperman
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Posted: 11 September 2024 at 3:18pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

When I was in my teens, my pen of choice was a Radiograph .30mm - super-thin fixed weight was my jam because I was heavily into Gerhard and David Macaulay, for two.  Of course, I didn't know anything about their actual tools and assumed that they used mechanical pens. Consequently, all my pages from ages 14-18 had absurdly gossamer linework. 

It was a meeting with Walt Simonson (appropriately enough, in Macaulay's office) that got me straight on materials and to this day remains the most useful advice I ever got. Firstly, he recommended his own pen of choice (the Hunt 102), some thoughts on brushwork, gave some advice on how to use both to vary line weights, etc.

And his criticism of my work WASN'T that it just didn't have any presence or body or what have you - all of which would have been more than justified. In fact, he didn't critique it at all, which was both a mercy and smart on his part, because I'm one of those tedious people who's deaf to good advice if there's also criticism involved.  His commentary was entirely around the technical limitations of printing; apparently, Marvel/DC printers used plastic plates on their presses, which would heat up and distort the thinner lines. Of course, there's any number of technical reasons why thin, undifferentiated lines would be a bad choice for comics, but that one really stuck with me.

Obviously that wouldn't be an issue with modern digital reproduction, but SO many other realizations came from that one little bit of advice that it completely changed my approach from then on.


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Darren Taylor
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Posted: 11 September 2024 at 4:27pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Nice one Dave! Thanks for sharing.
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 11 September 2024 at 5:36pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Great Paul!
And Darren too! I have to single out your work on Ororo’s hair, DT. Finished
like this, that amazing drawing is enhanced. One of the best Storm drawings
ever.
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Darren Taylor
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Posted: 12 September 2024 at 3:23pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Mark, John did an amazing job on bringing all the characteristics to fruition. His art is so awesome, all the information is already there. Such fun.
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Paul Wills
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Posted: 25 September 2024 at 3:27pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

ELSEWHEN p.29 (1st issue)

This page was great - I like how Colossus changes back to Peter. Love Kitty's reaction to seeing Peter and his reaction after. Panel 6 I started rendering and found it took on some Neal Adams touches (to my eyes).



Edited by Paul Wills on 01 October 2024 at 4:55pm
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 25 September 2024 at 6:30pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

100 pages of Inking Elsewhen pages!
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 25 September 2024 at 6:30pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

*(Thanks to Paul!) Great job!
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Paul Wills
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Posted: 26 September 2024 at 12:45am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Thanks Mark! (:
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Paul Wills
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Posted: 30 September 2024 at 4:56pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

and we're about to cross over that 100 page threshold...
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