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John Byrne

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Posted: 05 August 2025 at 6:11pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I don’t really recall that MARVEL AGE cover, but it has earmarks of a “corner of the desk” job. A classic “JB! As long as you’re here…” One sure sign is inks by Jack Abel!
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Vinny Valenti
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Posted: 05 August 2025 at 7:16pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

I used to love the MARVEL AGE and OHOTMU covers* of the day, because it let me see you draw characters or incarnations that you normally wouldn't - particularly Mohawk Storm and Rogue.


*you also threw in a whole bunch of side characters in WHAT THE--?!
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Ted Downum
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Posted: 05 August 2025 at 7:41pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Until today, I had never seen either the Marvel Age cover or that '81 calendar...unless I saw the calendar on sale in 1980, probably in Waldenbooks, but I doubt it, because even then I believe I would have "spotted the Byrne".

The calendar piece is a real beauty, and--as Vinny said--it's fun to see some characters on the Marvel Age cover that I wouldn't normally associate with our host. (Warlock! Cannonball! Power Pack! Aerobics Headband Dazzler!)




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Eric White
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Posted: 05 August 2025 at 9:23pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

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Eric White
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Posted: 05 August 2025 at 9:45pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Speaking of the 1981 Marvel calendar, I just got my copy of the X-Men Artist Edition by JB and it proved that he drew his Wolverine costume that someone changed for publication. I could be the only one who didn't know that fact. 




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Brian Miller
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Posted: 05 August 2025 at 10:23pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Thanks, Eric
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Brian Miller
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Posted: 05 August 2025 at 10:25pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

I'm probably going to have to finish up The Last Galactus Story. now that
EPIC ILLUSTRATED'S been cancelled.

******

Dammit
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Anthony Musgrave
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Posted: 05 August 2025 at 10:32pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

In the mid-80s, I think the only info I had about what was coming up in comics was what was featured within the comics themselves.  If memory serves, there was nothing within FF #293 to inform readers it was JB's last issue, and I was stunned to not see his art inside #294.  I think it was first announced in the letters column of #295 that he was leaving to take over Superman.  I remember thinking that was utterly bizarre because for me, JB simply WAS Marvel.  I hadn't read DC for years.  Around age 7 & 8 I had eagerly consumed titles like Super Friends, Superboy and Superman.  The first Marvel comic I purchased though just seemed so much more..... sophisticated.  The characters were more 'real' and engaging.  I was a Marvel Zombie from that point.  Much as I loved JB's art, I had no intention of following him to DC.

Then came the fateful day.....  While queuing to make a purchase in a newsagent, I noticed they had a small selection of American comics, including 'Man of Steel' #1.  The art on that wonderful cover instantly reached out to tickle the pleasure centre of my brain and, I swear, the comic itself spoke to me.  In the most seductive of tones, it said, "buy me, buy me, BUY ME!"  I had to obey.  I can honestly say, it was the best purchase I ever made!  I loved the art and story in MOS #1.  I read it again and again.  I hadn't known it was possible for a Superman comic to be that good.  It was a proper thrill to see JB's art in this new context, and I loved how he'd made Clark a 'real' person and not just a disguise.  I became a regular reader from that point.  The JB halo effect made me give lots of other DC titles a try, and I was pleasantly surprised to discover I loved many of them too.  Ah, happy days!  (Well, at least for me as a reader.  I'm obviously sad to learn it wasn't a happy working experience for JB, but the quality of those Superman stories was never less than sublime.)
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Doug Centers
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Posted: 06 August 2025 at 12:29am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

That 1981 Marvel calendar is the only item I ever ordered from a comic book. I adore it and still have it in the original mailing sleeve with Spider-Man stamp.

BTW, that was the last year for in house original calendar art from Marvel.
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Jack Caleb Day
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Posted: 06 August 2025 at 5:57pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Neither of these viewpoints are actually accurate for the most part. But it's interesting that much of the general or casual audience now thinks of DC as the home of darker content while Marvel is the home of lighter stories. When the actual comic reading audience has generally consider it the inverse.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 06 August 2025 at 6:37pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

It was DC that gave us “grim and gritty”*, which Dave Gibbons pointed out quickly degenerated into GLUM.

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*Sometimes to absurd effect. I mean, Congorilla? Really?

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Harry Dounis
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Posted: 06 August 2025 at 7:03pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

  I think the move essentially resurrected DC. I for one couldn't really get behind much of their titles until much later with Longbow Hunters, Killing Joke, History of the Universe and the various darker Batman graphic novels.
  My 14 year old self was scrambling to find a title to get behind after your Alpha departure... slightly off topic but I was gutted. I REALLY tried to hang in there... 
  I took my first and only steps as a "speculator" with the approximately 20lbs. worth of yet to be opened Man of Steel #1s!!! 
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