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John Byrne

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Posted: 18 November 2025 at 8:25pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

The greatest horror, of course, is that any movie adaptation would perforce include all the changes shoveled in since my day.
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Dave Kopperman
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Posted: 18 November 2025 at 8:41pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Maybe? I think the MCU studio plan is to lean in to the generally-agreed-upon fan favorite version of any teams (which seems to lean pretty heavily on the Gen X window of 1979-1986). They could no doubt find eight ways to Sunday to screw it up going from there, but I have little fear that the whole Puck demon soul sword thing would be used, for example.

I could see them shorting the Mac Guardian in favor of getting to Heather, but the whole widow taking up the mantle thing feels like cinematic catnip.


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James Johnson
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Posted: 18 November 2025 at 9:06pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Soooooooooooooo.....

Marrina has tattoos now? 🤦🏾‍♂️


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Ted Downum
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Posted: 18 November 2025 at 9:42pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

I was not familiar with Puck's origin story, as I stopped reading the book when JB left. 

That is...not a good origin story. 

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Dave Kopperman
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Posted: 18 November 2025 at 9:56pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Yeah, Puck's thing ultimately was - if not THE thing that caused me to drop the book, at least a big part of it. I honestly don't think I lasted more than through the handful of issues that Mignola pencilled, so what's that... six months into Mantlo's run?
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Eric Jansen
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Posted: 19 November 2025 at 12:08am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

The greatest horror, of course, is that any movie adaptation would perforce include all the changes shoveled in since my day.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 19 November 2025 at 3:23pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

ALPHA FLIGHT is too much of an unknown. Unless hardcore fans of my time on the book were put in charge, I doubt it would experience the “protection” you cite.

Besides, I left ALPHA a hundred and twelve years ago. All the dross that’s been piled on is REAL to most readers. It’s like the X-Men.

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Dave Kopperman
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Posted: 19 November 2025 at 4:03pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

I'm most definitely not 'that guy', but I've always felt like the only real Alpha Flight is your Alpha Flight - in a way that I don't have any such opinions on any other team or character in Marvel/DC, other than Howard the Duck. And it's really just in the writing. No shade on Mantlo (though some shade on Lobdell), but every other subsequent writer felt equally hollow and over-amped. No-one seemed to understand those characters, which I find fairly baffling because they're so clearly defined in your original run.
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Darren Taylor
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Posted: 19 November 2025 at 5:26pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Alpha Flight would be a great addition to the MCU. 

However, maybe it is safer for all our health's if the MCU just leave it alone.

I can understand the attraction though.

The first twelve issues are so strong. It is already built with brilliant characters split across a wide demography, which would suits Disney, and a lively fun, engaging story, along with a devastating payoff. 

Me personally, I really loved the Scrambled egg sequence that John did. It rewired what little brain I have. The Director part of that brain would want to come backwards into Alpha via Talisman. I feel drawn to explore something that leaned into the horror cues that John sowed so well. 

If this came in to our studio... I'd definitely insist that we reached out to JB in order to determine what level of involvement, if any, he'd be interested in. Because who'd want to see an AF film that John felt didn't represent those characters.

So if Disney do greenlight an AF production, I hope that they have at the very least, that amount of common sense. (But I'd imagine John has been in these desperately one-sided situations before. where you provide insight and 'executives' ignore and steamroller on anyway.)

More likely for me, is to see Guardian, or whomever walking around on the lot here, and that will brighten my day.

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