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Arc Carlton
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I do, however, know quite a few people who dropped ASM after "Sins Past". I couldn't tell you the ratio of like it or hate it, but I've read heated debate on it. There's no debate for me. It was just a rotten-to-the-core idea.
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I'd love to be a part of the debate. But I never read Sins Past.
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Jason Mark Hickok
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I stopped ASM during the JMS run. Found it nearly unreadable. My love for the character brought me back a little while into BRAND NEW DAY and have enjoyed it quite a bit. Been really fun in my opinion.
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Joe Hollon
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I hated everything about JMS and his run on Spider-Man. I stuck it out. Even when I heard about what was coming in SINS PAST I stayed around and read it for myself. It was like seeing the body of a loved one who has passed away. I needed the closure. That was it for me. No Marvel comics since then for me. Been about five years now hasn't it?
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Jason Mark Hickok
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Joe- It has been a while for sure since that. I would say give some titles a try because there are some really good ones from both Marvel and DC (not a lot of them but some) but every title is so convoluted that it would take you a lot of books to get back in sync with the Universes.
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Joe Hollon
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I'm sorry, Jason, but it is too late for me. As has been said, I didn't leave Marvel, Marvel left me. And DC also. I've had certain titles recommended to me dozens of times by various people whose opinions I value....the ship has sailed. I really don't think I'll ever go back to read the main, in-continuity titles from either Marvel or DC.
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Paulo Pereira
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Arc wrote:
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I'd recommend giving it a pass. I'm just skimming through it (the DVD-ROM) and I don't like it. I don't care for Mike Deodato Jr's artwork either (huge letdown after JR Jr. and Scott Hanna) or for his casting of the characters (i.e. Jason Priestly as Spider-Man, Liv Tyler as Mary Jane, Tommy Lee Jones as Norman Osborne).
Edited by Paulo Pereira on 24 July 2009 at 3:01pm
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Flavio Sapha
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an "oasis" in which Marvel would be free to produce the kinds of books it seems otherwise to have abandoned
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How about the DC Wednesday Comics thing?
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Rick Whiting
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IIRC, JMS had said in at least on interview discussing the then upcoming "Sins Past" storyline that many fans tend to put Gwen up on a pedestal and that he wanted to show a different side of her. So it's pretty apparent that JMS had a problem with accepting Gwen's good girl nature. Of course in his twisted logic, he doesn't think that "Sins Past" ruined Gwen as a character or good girl nature.
To echo what JB said in an earlier post, it's ironic that Marvel heroes aren't allowed to smoke, but cussing,graphic violence,and strongly implied sex and/or sexual innuendos are allowed in their comics.
It seems to me that by giving into the addictive anal retentive fanmen and doing the story's that would have never been done before (like telling Wolverine's origin) the Quesada/Jemas era, Marvel has basically hit a creative dead end. This is why the company is currently heavily relying on gimmicks (like variant covers, crossovers,and mainstream news grabbing "controversial" story's) to sell their books.
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Joe Hollon
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Is it true that Joe Quesada has been EiC at Marvel longer than anyone in history other than Stan Lee? He's been EiC at Marvel for nine years (I'm pretty sure)....about 40% of the entire time I've been reading comics. Amazing and depressing.
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David Kingsley Kingsley
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JMS had also planned, originally, on having "One More Day" delete the twins from continuity. Quesada chose not to go that route and insists that the story remains canon.
A recent issue of Amazing Spider-Man had, as someone else pointed out, Gabriel Stacy floating in a tube in Norman Osborn's lab. if Marvel chose to write a story in which it turns out that the twins were just tricks made by Norman Osborn to mess with Spider-Man, and that the Gwen/Norman coupling never really happened, would it be an acceptable use for the characters?
Edited by David Kingsley Kingsley on 24 July 2009 at 4:55pm
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Steve De Young
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Just when I thought it couldn't get worse:
Red She-Hulk
For those keeping track, there are now three She-Hulks in the current Marvel Universe.
Edited by Steve De Young on 24 July 2009 at 5:13pm
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Trevor Smith
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Re: red she-hulk. Was red hulk *really* that popular?
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