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John Byrne

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Posted: 22 July 2009 at 12:49pm | IP Logged | 1  
I'm wondering how interesting a series about a slightly older Wolverine (still called Logan), his wife Mariko, and their adopted daughter Amiko would be. You'd be able to focus on how he adapted to family life and came to terms with his still-mysterious past.

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Page after page after page after page of talking heads. It's probably in active development at Marvel right now!

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Taavi Suhonen
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Posted: 22 July 2009 at 12:49pm | IP Logged | 2  
The Professor from Weapon X and Sabertooth are James Hudson's brothers?
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Michael Roberts
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Posted: 22 July 2009 at 12:55pm | IP Logged | 3  
I'm not terribly fond of "Skaar, Son of Hulk" as an idea either, and I (mostly) liked "Planet Hulk" and "World War Hulk." Sigh.

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I like Skaar, but wish he were in some Marvel futureverse, rather than in current continuity. The barbarian child of Hulk on an alien world is a concept I like. The barely over a year old barbarian child of Hulk who has rapidly matured to a teenager in Hulk form but looks like a five year old kid in human form who used to be on an alien world but is now traipsing around Earth, not so much.
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Jeff Barlow
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Posted: 22 July 2009 at 1:00pm | IP Logged | 4  
"Page after page after page after page of talking heads.
It's probably in active development at Marvel right now!"

I think if it were written well and focused on their
personal lives plus the occasional threat (much like JB did
with the Fantastic Four), it's a logical direction for the
character as he existed 20 years ago.

It would be much more interesting than the Wolverine Family
we've got now.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 22 July 2009 at 1:01pm | IP Logged | 5  
The barbarian child of Hulk on an alien world is a concept I like.

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The emphasis added is the point at which any such concept loses me.
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Brian Tait
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Posted: 22 July 2009 at 1:32pm | IP Logged | 6  
Y'know, it's crap like this that makes me wish Marvel had never come out of bankruptcy protection.
Maybe it should have died back at the beginning of the decade.

Guess now they're just creatively bankrupt instead.

Very sad.
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Bob Freeman
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Posted: 22 July 2009 at 1:38pm | IP Logged | 7  
For the love of Pete... make it stop. Please....
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Steve De Young
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Posted: 22 July 2009 at 1:41pm | IP Logged | 8  
Oh well, no merchandising opportunities there.

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Really, that's the worst criticism of the whole thing.  Just taking the premise of Wolverine having an adult son...think of all the actual creative possibilities there were out there.  I mean, what if he was completely different than Logan.  Totally different powers.  Totally different personality.  What if then the two characters had to figure out how to relate to each other.  There's story possibilities there...real stories that you couldn't tell with just Wolverine.  Stories that could potentially justify bringing in an adult child of Wolverine.

But instead, we get a younger carbon copy with tattoos, a mohawk, and an extra power designed to get anything that moves near him into bed.
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David Kingsley Kingsley
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Posted: 22 July 2009 at 1:49pm | IP Logged | 9  

I champion modern comic book writing pretty regularly, but I do have to admit, Matt, that the Jeph Loeb Wolverine story where the Lupine species (which also included Wild Child and Feral) had forever had a blonde and brunette champion to explain the Sabretooth Wolverine rivalry, was as bad and as dumb as it sounds.

There's a trend in comics, as of late, to give characters illegitimate children: Punisher (Max), Batman, Wolverine, Hulk, (almost) Spider-Man, and Superman had that adopted child for, like, a month. Like all trends, this one will end, but I hope that Daken (Son of Wolverine), Skaar (Son of Hulk), Christopher Kent, Damien Wayne stick around. Heck, I hope that the Stacy Osborn twins from Sins Past show up, again. None of these characters have been too uninteresting to redeem, with the right author, and Skaar, Daken, and Damien Wayne are already interesting, in their own right.
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Taavi Suhonen
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Posted: 22 July 2009 at 2:14pm | IP Logged | 10  
 David Kingsley wrote:
I hope that the Stacy Osborn twins from Sins Past show up, again


Please tell me you are kidding.
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Paulo Pereira
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Posted: 22 July 2009 at 2:26pm | IP Logged | 11  
Damien Wayne? Batman has a son too??
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John Byrne

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Posted: 22 July 2009 at 2:35pm | IP Logged | 12  
Superheroes can no longer smoke at Marvel, but unprotected sex is okay!
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