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Jon PInto
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Posted: 02 November 2026 at 5:07pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I know several artists have done this, but I noticed that JB has done it several times and I was curious if this was intentional for composition/ storytelling purposes (or maybe just looked cooler?), or was it an oversight? In one panel, Luke Cage's right hand grabs the wrist of the attacker, and in the next panel....

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John Byrne

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Posted: 02 November 2026 at 5:33pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

People do shift positions, you know. :-)
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Dave Kopperman
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Posted: 02 November 2026 at 7:43pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

In the first panel, Luke's grabbing the arm at the wrist with his right hand, and it the second, he's clearly got him by the opposite shoulder with his left arm. Easy enough to apply a little closure between panels to figure Luke spun him around and then used his other arm to do the pin (ie, 'people shifting positions').

Edited by Dave Kopperman on 02 November 2026 at 7:44pm
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John Byrne

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Posted: 02 November 2026 at 8:28pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

On GENERATIONS I received a letter from a fan who was outraged that I had shown characters moving “impossibly” around a table. Evidently he’d taken their positions in the first panel as indicating their feet were nailed to the floor!
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Dave Kopperman
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Posted: 02 November 2026 at 9:15pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Whether it's a fully conscious impulse or not*, I've noticed that the best visual storytellers - yourself and Ditko, for example - have a real sense of the space they're illustrating; even the bits of it that aren't currently on-panel.

*I tend to think a trait like that is a native-born gift that the artist in question recognizes and actively adjusts as needed.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 02 November 2026 at 9:42pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

It is a general rule that writers mostly don’t think in pictures. A classic example came a while back when, as a favor to an editor, I took on an assignment being written by someone else. The writer insisted on working full script, which meant I had no input on the number of panels on a page, or what was in them.

Almost immediately I ran into a problem with a group of five or six characters sitting around a table talking. The dialogue in the first panel established the position of each character at the table—which the writer immediately ignored with the second panel—and the third—and the fourth. Without the characters actually moving, the sequence of their speaking kept changing.

Ultimately I had to resort to some pretty odd camera angles to get the characters in the right order to fit the dialogue.

(Unrelated to that, one of my “favorite” examples of writers not thinking in pictures involved another full script where the writer asked for a winged figure—BIG wings—to fly thru a door and between the legs of a man standing in the room—without knocking him over! In that case I had to simply ignore what the panel description asked for.)

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