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John Byrne

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Posted: 02 July 2025 at 11:49am | IP Logged | 1 post reply
As gratifying as it is to be reminded of the pleasure so many of you derived from comics—including my own—produced under Shooter’s tenure as EiC, I feel I would be remiss if I did not reiterate, at least in part, what I and others have said in this Forum for decades.

The work you remember so fondly was in many cases produced in spite of Shooter, not because of him. Use the Forum’s SEARCH function to look up “Shooter” and see for yourselves.

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James Woodcock
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Posted: 02 July 2025 at 1:21pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply
And that’s why I have mixed feelings.
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Alan David DeCamp
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Posted: 02 July 2025 at 2:57pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply
It broke my heart when I heard about this. He was always cordial and respectful to me whenever I spoke with him at the shows.
My condolences to his family.

"The work you remember so fondly was in many cases produced in spite of Shooter, not because of him. Use the Forum’s SEARCH function to look up “Shooter” and see for yourselves."

Could it also be that his style forced a lot of creators to produce some of their best work in spite of him? I plan to look back at the posts you are referring to because I have only ever heard it via "fan talk" and will be glad to get it from a credible source.
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Peter Martin
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Posted: 02 July 2025 at 3:24pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply
He was Editor in Chief when I started really getting into Marvel in the mid 80s and that time was great. JB on FF and AF; DeFalco and Frenz on Spider-Man; Stern and Buscema on Avengers; Claremont and Romita Jr on X-Men; Walt on Thor; Miller and Mazzuchelli on Daredevil; O'Neill and Bright on Iron Man.

Secret Wars was the start of that and I loved it at the time.

(The less said about the crossovers that plagued books shortly after the better...)

Sad to hear that Shooter has gone.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 02 July 2025 at 4:40pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply
From the obit in FORBES:

“Thanks to the breakout success of the X-Men by writer Chris Claremont and artist John Byrne, the signature title of Shooter’s reign, Marvel began a rise that saw the company bring in exciting young creators like Frank Miller, Walter Simonson and Bill Sienkiewicz…”

For “breakout success” read “in constant danger of cancellation.”

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William Costello
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Posted: 03 July 2025 at 12:17am | IP Logged | 6 post reply
Jim Shooter was at at TerrifiCon a few years back and he signed my Dark Dominion front plate. I was able to get the front plate and the book to assemble the cards by an unusual coincidence; the distributor for Defiant's material was in West Haven CT, right near a client or our firm.

My first read of Jim's material was the Fatal Five way back in Adventure Comics back in 1968. Even at a pretty young age, I knew there was something - different - about the Legion of Super Heroes stories.
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