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Gerard Brown
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Posted: 31 January 2011 at 7:09pm | IP Logged | 1  

I always read that You (John Byrne) always intended Puck to have No super powers.  It was another writer that added all the mystical stuff (Mantlo?).  Anyway, I always loved a non powered Puck, and had a question about his creation.  About the same time I discovered and fell in love with Eugene Judd, I began reading a series of mystery novels by George C. Chesbro.  In that series, the hero is Dr. Robert Fredrickson (AKA Mongo The Magnificent), a dwarf private eye, who also happens to be an ex circus performer and martial arts expert.  Great series and as I read book after book, I always saw Mongo as Puck, in my mind's eye, the question (finally) is did you ever read any Mongo Novels and did they have any influence on Puck's creation?  If not it was a wonderful case of great mind's thinking a like, as both character's have a large part of my heart.  If you never had heard of Mongo, I suggest you take a read as you may be honored by the similarities! 
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John Byrne

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Posted: 01 February 2011 at 4:47am | IP Logged | 2  

…did you ever read any Mongo Novels and did they have any influence on Puck's creation?

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Nope. Never heard of 'em.

Puck was created in the most prosaic of ways. When ALPHA FLIGHT got their own title, Jim Shooter suggested I create some new team members, so that I could lay claim to the creator's percentage of the royalties that had been introduced since I created the original team. I kicked around various "Canadianisms" looking for inspriration, thinking about the identifying elements of the cities and provinces, and the like. I also made up a list of random words connected in most Americans' minds with Canada. One of those was "puck", and the rest, as they say, is history.

(There is the barest, slenderest, most vanishingly small whisper of a chance that a portion of inspiration might have come from "Major Domo", a character from the old Canadian Whites*. He was a dwarf who sat upon the shoulders of a big guy who had lost both his arms. No, really.)

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* Black and white comics published during WW2, when there was an embargo on foreign publications, including comics.

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Tony Midyett
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Posted: 01 February 2011 at 5:10am | IP Logged | 3  

^ Was that an inspiration for Warstar, JB?  Or was it really Beany and Cecil?  :)    

And I wonder if the author of "Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome" was inspired by Warstar?
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John Byrne

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Posted: 01 February 2011 at 5:14am | IP Logged | 4  

Not sure where Warstar came from -- tho it was Chris who named the character. The "Beany and Cecil" gag was his response to my having snuck "Mutt and Jeff" past him in our first X-MEN issue.
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Tony Midyett
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Posted: 01 February 2011 at 5:44am | IP Logged | 5  

LOL!  I love Mutt and Jeff.  I've read lots of reprints from the Golden Age of comic strips, and that's one of my faves.
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Gerard Brown
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Posted: 01 February 2011 at 6:47am | IP Logged | 6  

Thank you so much for the quick reply.  This was a question I had been meaning to ask you for years (literally!) but never had the chance to meet you at a convention.  Despite being a Byrne Victim since WAY back.  And By the way, never ask Chris Claremont a John Bryne question in person.  Lets just say his entire body language changes.  My son was praising Chris at a convention and I had to throw in how the writing on X-Men always seemed better to me when it was credited as Co-Plotted by John Bryne and asked about the collaboration process.....lets just say he wasn't very forthcoming and wasn't interested in me any longer!

Still I recommend checking out one of the Mongo Mysteries and try, just try, not to picture Puck in your head as you read!  The Mongo character even talked about the constant pain of being a dwarf, something you made note of in Puck's solo adventure in early AF!

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Brad Danson
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Posted: 01 February 2011 at 8:38am | IP Logged | 7  


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My son was praising Chris at a convention and I had to throw in how the writing on X-Men always seemed better to me when it was credited as Co-Plotted by John Bryne and asked about the collaboration process.....lets just say he wasn't very forthcoming and wasn't interested in me any longer!


I can't imagine why!
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Paulo Pereira
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Posted: 01 February 2011 at 10:11am | IP Logged | 8  

FAQ on Puck.

Edited by Paulo Pereira on 01 February 2011 at 10:11am
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John Byrne

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Posted: 01 February 2011 at 11:07am | IP Logged | 9  

Still I recommend checking out one of the Mongo Mysteries and try, just try, not to picture Puck in your head as you read! The Mongo character even talked about the constant pain of being a dwarf, something you made note of in Puck's solo adventure in early AF!

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Before I started writing Puck, I read up on achondroplastic dwarfism, to be sure I described the condition correctly. (Actually, I didn't know the name of the condition, and worked backwards until I found it -- at the LIBRARY!)

No doubt the author of the "Mongo Mysteries" did the same.

Unfortunately, Bill Mantlo, when subsequently handling the character, looked no further than the pages of ALPHA FLIGHT for his background research, and so came up with his own "explanation" for various elements I had ascribed to Puck's condition.

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Gerard Brown
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Posted: 01 February 2011 at 11:32am | IP Logged | 10  

I wish Mantlo would have consulted with you on Puck.  I HATED the story of the evil trapped inside him, crap.  He ruined the hint of the Black Bishop JB planted, I had always envisioned a Maltese Falcon type story that Puck would reveal at a later date, not some mystical super villian.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 01 February 2011 at 11:35am | IP Logged | 11  

Somewhere lurking in the deepest recesses of my mind was the notion that the Bronze Bishop was a famous chess piece -- like a Faberge Egg or something -- but it never really took full shape.

Truth to tell, the affair of the Bronze Bishop was intended to be Puck's "Giant Rat of Sumatra" -- a tale that would never be told!

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Gerard Brown
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Posted: 01 February 2011 at 11:41am | IP Logged | 12  

Bronze Bishop, my bad.  Memory fading with age.  Wish you had written the story, I often think of Puck, pre-Alpha, as a dwarf version of Indiana Jones!  Off in exotic locales always up to his neck in adventure, Alpha Flight being just another adventure in his journey!
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