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Scott Good
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Posted: 24 October 2021 at 8:04pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

$5.19 gas a gallon, fraud, corruption, I live in California...'nuff said. 
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Matt Reed
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Posted: 24 October 2021 at 10:10pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Curious what that means?  I live in CA as well.  Have for nearly 25 years.  Gas has always...ALWAYS...been more expensive here than anywhere in the US.  By a large margin.  That's not Biden nor is it tied to fraud and corruption.  
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 24 October 2021 at 11:56pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Scott: $5.19 gas a gallon, fraud, corruption, I live in California...'nuff said.

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This is a common enough refrain among right wing Californians for me to feel safe assuming that it's a right-wing swipe at the current administration.

This is the level of the "debate," because the GOP is now a voting block that thinks expertise, facts, evidence, and discussion are tools of the "elite" "fake news" "leftist-socialist" "tyrants".

The incredible success of the effort to create this state of affairs in the USA must bewilder even the Koch brothers who funded it for the last 50 years.

...and who are making the most off the currently sky-rocketing price for oil.

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L Hunt
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Posted: 25 October 2021 at 6:36am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

I know it's not that relevant but just as comparison we pay around $20 a gallon here in the UK.
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 25 October 2021 at 9:29am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

L Hunt: I know it's not that relevant but just as comparison we pay around $20 a gallon here in the UK.

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Very relevant. Another flaw in US thinking is the idea that whatever amazing convenience we've become used to came to us straight from God. Instead of realizing how infinitely blessed we are, we constantly bitch that we don't have it good enough.
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ron bailey
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Posted: 25 October 2021 at 9:35am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

OR ... 
Ask WHY gas is $20 in the UK and $3-5 stateside. These things don't happen by accident. Learn/investigate about the bigger picture.   < id="protanopia"> < id="deuteranopia"> < id="tritanopia">
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 25 October 2021 at 11:02am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

I assume that you actually asked why and found out the answer before you posted that, Ron?

Otherwise, doctor, heal thyself.
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Marc Baptiste
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Posted: 25 October 2021 at 5:48pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

You know California has been DEEP blue since Bill Clinton turned it in 1992 - almost THREE DECADES ago - and it's never looked back. I don't understand why Democrats winning here is seen as "fraud and corruption."  To say nothing of the complete and total lack of evidence ever put forward to back up the claim(s).

Marc

(P.S., However, it is VERY much worth noting that "fraud and corruption" never, ever passed the lips of Republicans until TRUMP lost in 2020.  But then cult leaders can have that effect on their flocks.)


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ron bailey
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Posted: 25 October 2021 at 7:17pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

 assume that you actually asked why and found out the answer before you posted that, Ron?
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No conspiracy theories here, Mark. Just stating that often in the news we obsess about the symptoms and not the causes. Current case in point stateside with all the complaints about the supply chain crisis: it's a global phenomenon, not a national one. 
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Andrew Bitner
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Posted: 25 October 2021 at 7:18pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

"Fraud and corruption" is the battle cry of those who have no knowledge, no proof, and nothing positive to offer. It's the ultimate cheap shot of politics, because those who are "too smart for the room" can nod like they actually understand what's being said without having to validate any of it.
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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 25 October 2021 at 10:44pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Ron: Current case in point stateside with all the complaints about the supply chain crisis: it's a global phenomenon, not a national one.

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It's also that gas in the UK has cost 3x that of the US for over 20 years (including 67% tax).

Edited by Mark Haslett on 25 October 2021 at 10:45pm
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ron bailey
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Posted: 25 October 2021 at 10:50pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

That's right, there are more issues at play than might be readily apparent. Elevate the discourse.   < id="protanopia"> < id="deuteranopia"> < id="tritanopia">
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