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Rick Senger
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Posted: 31 December 2021 at 12:57pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Digging this version of Wolverine.

Is the title of next issue ("Child of Light and Darkness") any reference to your and Chris' X-Men 136 which had the same title (and the same lightened "light" word?) I figured perhaps this was taken from a literary quote but Mr. Google seems to come up with almost all X-Men 136 citations for the first three pages.

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John Byrne

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Posted: 31 December 2021 at 1:08pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Find out on Monday!

(The title is a very loose adaptation of Roger Zelazny’s “Creatures of Light and Darkness”.)

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Rick Senger
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Posted: 31 December 2021 at 1:35pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Ahh, thanks. Always interested to hear the inspiration for things like that. I've heard of Zelazny who won a bunch of Hugos so surely has game but have never read his stuff.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 31 December 2021 at 1:49pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

I recommend LORD OF LIGHT.
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Jim Petersman
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Posted: 31 December 2021 at 2:19pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

What a flat out fun run this has been! Pablo isn't happy, Wolverine is a jerk again, Jeanix is here, we don't know how fast a Sentinel can charge, and Dr. Doom is digging for Nightcrawlers! And probably 10 other things I'm forgetting at the moment. Thanks JB!
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Michael Genitempo
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Posted: 31 December 2021 at 4:35pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Wolverine “meeting” Jean for the first time could be interesting also because from Jean’s point of view Logan is a bit of a stranger.  I don’t believe there was much attraction from her in the lead up to her becoming Phoenix and any implied attraction after would mostly be the Phoenix. In fact, before the shuttle crash, she had pretty much had it up to here with him, so who knows how she’d react to him now if he did show interest…
 
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Richard Stevens
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Posted: 31 December 2021 at 5:24pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Coolest damn book on the stands! Here's hoping for a 2022 filled with Elsewhen.
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Matt Hawes
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Posted: 31 December 2021 at 7:20pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Wolverine definitely appears to be the rougher type that I first was introduced to when reading "Uncanny X-Men" -- and for me that's a great thing! I often told my friends that the Wolverine of the Frank Miller drawn mini-series, while cool in his own right, was not the same guy in the older X-Men issues that I really liked. The older characterization was more wild, hair-triggered, and dangerous (yes, BOTH were deadly, but the older version was more threatening).

I like straight and narrow, real hero types like Superman and Cyclops (when he is written correctly), but even as a kid I dug Wolverine for his contrast to that image. I never admired or wanted to be like him, but I appreciated the dynamic he brought to the team, and in the 1970s, there was NO other superhero really like him.

Oh, and nice  touch to have him smoking again. That's something that Marvel has forbade in the comics for years, but to me adds to his character. I am not a smoker, never have been, and don't condone it, but it seems silly to worry about showing a character with razor-sharp claws and a known killing streak influencing kids to smoke. I discovered Wolverine when I was a kid and never felt compelled to smoke because he did in the comics.
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Bob Brown
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Posted: 01 January 2022 at 10:08am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

D'oh! I should have made the Zelazny connection before but never did...

A friend put me on to the 'Amber' books in my teens, and I devoured everything else I could find. 'Lord of Light' is a good recommendation, and I'd add 'This Immortal', 'Damnation Alley' (don't worry, it's nothing like the film!), and the first five 'Amber' books if anyone is checking him out for the first time...
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Bill Dowling
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Posted: 01 January 2022 at 1:09pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

I recommend LORD OF LIGHT.

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Lord of Light is a great book. I’ve read it at least three times. 

Have you ever considered adapting it as a comic? Or any other novels?

Also, have you seen the concept art that Kirby did for a potential film adaptation? (The same adaptation that got scrapped and was later used as a ruse to get American diplomats out of Iran)
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John Byrne

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Posted: 01 January 2022 at 1:22pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

I started an adaptation of LORD OF LIGHT in my early 20s, around the same time as THE DEATH’S HEAD KNIGHT. Very frustrating in those pre-Google days. My father’s late 1940s edition of the Encyclopedia Brittanica was the only reference I had for Indian culture and art.

And, yes, I’ve seen the Kirby art. Fascinating.

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Tim O Neill
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Posted: 01 January 2022 at 3:07pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply


Wolverine's story has been a real high point for me with this series. It's been
great to see his backstory, and to have it end on a less developed version of
himself is a really cool set-up. The return of the original costume is a perfect
representation of this and serves as a good shorthand for this short tempered
shorty!

The heartbreaking part of the gap in his memory is that he doesn't "know"
Pablo, which was such a touching connection between the two.

And I just love how it was told through Shaman's restoration process - he's my
favorite "Alphlightian," so I really like that he guided Logan through this.


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