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Walt Hall
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Was there any mention of Hulk's changing personality or DID prior to Bill Mantlo's run?
Edited by Walt Hall on 06 April 2023 at 10:33pm
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 07 April 2023 at 12:15am | IP Logged | 2
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Roger Stern touched on it.
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Peter Martin
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I think there's a distinct turn for the worse when he gets angry.
Corrected because of a beginner's mistake between comparative and superlative.
Edited by Peter Martin on 07 April 2023 at 12:49am
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Mark Haslett
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| Posted: 07 April 2023 at 6:39am | IP Logged | 4
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Q for JB
Was writing Hulk stories something that seemed to come easily for
you?
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Greg McPhee
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One thing I always give Kenneth Johnson and the writers of The Hulk TV show credit for was illustrating that because Banner was a compassionate and caring person who helped others, his Hulk still held those values. That Hulk was just an extension of Banner’s rage and anger, but essentially the core of Banner was still there.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 07 April 2023 at 2:16pm | IP Logged | 6
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Was writing Hulk stories something that seemed to come easily for you?•• It's been a while since I provided any fodder for the Byrne Bashers, so. . . I find virtually all writing comes easily for me. If it doesn't, I figure I'm doing it wrong.
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Mark Haslett
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| Posted: 08 April 2023 at 2:19pm | IP Logged | 7
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JB: I find virtually all writing comes easily for me. If it doesn't, I figure
I'm doing it wrong.
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I love that answer.
It’s unusual in my experience to hear such a good writer finds it comes
easily.
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John Byrne
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Stan Lee said the characters would tell us what kind of stories they wanted to be in, and I found that worked well for me. Any time I’d find myself struggling with some plot turn, I would invariably realize it was because I was trying to take the characters somewhere they didn’t want to go.
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Michael Penn
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Presumably then the pre-writing work involves reading a good number of the best, definitive issues to "easily" possess a functional sense of who the characters really are.
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John Byrne
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Yes. Stan’s method does not work if the writer thinks his/her “vision” is superior to the original.
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Olav Bakken
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The Hulk by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby was different from the gentle green giant we got later. I haven't read much of the early stuff, so I can't say if it happened gradually or if it was because of the animated series.
Once his personality had been established, it seemed to stay that way till issue 272, where Banner takes over and the previous Hulk is never seen again. Still, in issue 227 we learn that Hulk is not just another version of Banner. They are two separate personalities.
I don't think Bill Mantlo claimed Banner was mentally ill, he was just an abused child. But as we know, it inspired Peter David to come up with that idea after reading about Banner's abusive father.
(Later it has also been established that the transformations triggered by gamma radiation are strongly influenced by your subconscious desires. Guess that mean Betty Ross really wanted to be Harpy.)
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John Byrne
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The “abused child” backstory for Banner was SO DC. Marvel characters were not traditionally “prepared” for their superhero roles. They were just reg’lar folk whom “Fate” selected at random. Anyway, to repeat something I’ve mentioned before, Len Wein used to say the Hulk was Marvel’s Goofy, but Roger Stern said the Hulk was Marvel’s Donald Duck.
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