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Joe Smith
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Posted: 22 May 2023 at 2:46pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

That COLD WAR spread brought me right back to the Ross Andru ASM run.
Warm fuzzies for days.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 22 May 2023 at 3:16pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Those rising mists in the last panel of that Deadman page are, of course, left over from a previous page where they spelled out HEY! A JIM STERANKO EFFECT!
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Peter Hicks
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Posted: 22 May 2023 at 3:31pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Oh, letís just admit Neal Adams was the GOAT!   

https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/great-pages-of-neal-a dams-artist-spotlight


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John Byrne

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Posted: 22 May 2023 at 4:16pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

I award GOAT to Joe Kubert. Unlike Neal, he was never willing to sacrifice clarity for a snazzy shot.
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Dave Kopperman
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Posted: 22 May 2023 at 4:54pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

If the idea of 'creative' is focused on interesting formal experimentation with page layout, then any number of things by Steranko would get the top spot.  But to JB's point, the more you play around with layout the more effort you place on the reader to follow the flow of the narrative, which Steranko was definitely guilty of, as was Adams.

My favorite contemporary master of this (mainstream comics division) is J. H. Williams III.  Promethea is pretty much cover-to-cover lushly illustrated formal play, and more recently, his work on Sandman: Overture is endlessly inventive eye candy.  Without a doubt, sometimes you have to work a little harder to track the story flow, but in the context of these two very thematically-dense works, it's less of an issue (though I'd bet if he was doing similar stuff on Batwoman it would have been out-of-place).



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Dave Kopperman
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Posted: 22 May 2023 at 5:01pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Some more samples of Williams's formal play, here:  https://www.howtolovecomics.com/2015/07/20/artist-week-13-j- h-williams-iii/
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Peter Martin
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Posted: 22 May 2023 at 5:20pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

For a single panel, this is up there:

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Doug Centers
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Posted: 22 May 2023 at 9:49pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Yeah Peter, the first thing that came to mind was it must be some Dr. Strange panel out there.
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Wallace Sellars
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Posted: 22 May 2023 at 10:27pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

"Modern" Marvel comics are still something I tend to avoid like the plague; however, Javier Rodriguez did some really interesting things with page layouts on Doctor Strange and Spider-Woman.
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Ted Pugliese
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Posted: 23 May 2023 at 12:49am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Great examples here, but no way I can answer this question.
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John Wickett
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Posted: 23 May 2023 at 1:01am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

I don't know if this counts as a comic book (I'd at least count it as a graphic novel), but I've always held Bernie Wrightson's Frankenstein to be one of the single greatest artistic achievements by a comic book artist.

If you're judging creativity solely by how uniquely a page is laid out, then maybe it doesn't fit on this list.  But the sheer volume (and incredible quality) of creativity that went into every page of that book places it close to the top for me.


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Peter Hicks
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Posted: 24 May 2023 at 12:14am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

I met Bernie in his senior years at Wonderfest.  When discussing Frankenstein, he said looking at those drawings now, he had no idea where he ever found the patience to illustrate so much detail.
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