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John Byrne
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| Posted: 22 February 2024 at 4:09pm | IP Logged | 1
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The Alabama Supreme Court has ruled that frozen embryos are legally children. As opposed to what?
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Michael Penn
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| Posted: 22 February 2024 at 4:35pm | IP Logged | 2
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States have taken different position on the legal personality of unborn human beings. A legal person possesses rights and is owed a duty of care. Some states consider non-viable unborn children to be legal persons (e.g., Alabama) and some do not (e.g., New York). Parents cannot bring a lawsuit for wrongful death on behalf of an unborn child who is not a legal person in the given state. The Alabama Supreme Court in its ruling (mentioning God 41 times) has now extended non-viable legal personality to frozen embryos.
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Rebecca Jansen
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| Posted: 22 February 2024 at 5:06pm | IP Logged | 3
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I've been trying to understand the thinking and ultimate motivation behind this. My guess is that freezing embryos will be added to their forbidden/banned list?
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Brian Hughes
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| Posted: 22 February 2024 at 9:38pm | IP Logged | 4
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Let's see what happens when some family claims them as dependents on their taxes.
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James Johnson
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| Posted: 22 February 2024 at 9:42pm | IP Logged | 5
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DAMN IT, Brian!
You stole my post! /s
But seriously, this is going to crazy.
Someone will try to take it to court about collecting income from frozen embryos.
Imagine that?
Alabama: First On The Dropdown List! Last In Education!
Edited by James Johnson on 22 February 2024 at 9:46pm
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David Teller
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| Posted: 22 February 2024 at 10:50pm | IP Logged | 6
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My claim to fame is I went to school with (and lived in the same street!) as the first IVF baby. All the way from 4 to 16.
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Didier Yvon Paul Fayolle
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| Posted: 23 February 2024 at 2:37am | IP Logged | 7
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I saw a video about a lady suing her parents because she
wasn't asked to be born...
Edited by Didier Yvon Paul Fayolle on 23 February 2024 at 7:42am
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Steven Myers
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| Posted: 23 February 2024 at 5:06pm | IP Logged | 8
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If it isn't legal to freeze people, why can we freeze embryos?
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Jason K Fulton
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| Posted: 23 February 2024 at 6:12pm | IP Logged | 9
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At this point, the crazier Southern state legislatures are just throwing crazy laws on the books to see what the Supreme Court will uphold. The Tennessee legislature just passed a law (that the Governor signed) that "allows state officials to decline to “solemnize marriages", with the goal being to chip away at Obergefell (the gay marriage law).
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Brian Floyd
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| Posted: 23 February 2024 at 7:33pm | IP Logged | 10
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Someone said the way to put the embryos as children thing to rest is to claim frozen embryos as dependents on your taxes. I don't think that would work, but if there's a loophole.....
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Marc Foxx
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| Posted: 23 February 2024 at 7:41pm | IP Logged | 11
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I don't know if this is the darkest timeline, but it's sure starting to look like the stupidest...
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James Johnson
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| Posted: 23 February 2024 at 8:59pm | IP Logged | 12
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From the guy who thinks the three branches of government are:
Offense
Defense
Special Teams
I know we have a few members on this forum that are from Alabama, so I will not mock you. But tell me, are the voters that....well....mis-informed?
I mean....this guy? Seriously?
Edited by James Johnson on 23 February 2024 at 9:02pm
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