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James Woodcock
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| Posted: 13 April 2026 at 7:24pm | IP Logged | 1
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Volume is less, numbers is fewer.
One bug bear I have is centred.
Something is centred on, not centred around.
Edited by James Woodcock on 13 April 2026 at 7:24pm
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 13 April 2026 at 7:55pm | IP Logged | 2
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Bugbear is one word. :-pppppp
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James Woodcock
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| Posted: 14 April 2026 at 5:34am | IP Logged | 3
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That is my failing.
Knowing when words are concatenated and when they should have
hyphens. I’m crap at that as my manger keeps pointing out to me.
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Bill Collins
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| Posted: 14 April 2026 at 6:35am | IP Logged | 4
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I often get "Me and" wrong because i sometimes slip into
the Black Country vernacular where it is commonly said.
Often when i am writing on here it's in the early hours
before work, so for me having just got up, it's an easy
mistake.
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James Woodcock
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| Posted: 14 April 2026 at 1:27pm | IP Logged | 5
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One pair of words I can never figure out which to use is
further and farther.
I read what the difference is, and still cannot commit to
memory which to use when.
I do understand the difference between accept and except
though, which seems to be a dying art.
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Brian Miller
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| Posted: 14 April 2026 at 2:52pm | IP Logged | 6
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Since farther is actual physical distance, I switch the f with an e for earth
and that reminds me of distance.
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James Woodcock
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| Posted: 14 April 2026 at 3:01pm | IP Logged | 7
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Thanks, I will try that
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Peter Martin
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| Posted: 14 April 2026 at 5:50pm | IP Logged | 8
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I know and understand the purported rule for 'further/farther' and I reject it!
Two players are on a football pitch, Jim and Bob. Jim is close to his own goal, whereas Bob is much further down the pitch.
Tell me it's wrong!
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 14 April 2026 at 6:52pm | IP Logged | 9
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So Bob has farther to go……….
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Peter Martin
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| Posted: 14 April 2026 at 8:00pm | IP Logged | 10
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I see further as an acceptable sub for farther in practical terms. I think further as a figurative distance probably doesn't swap out of father. You have Christmas coming up, and then Christmas 2027. That makes 2027 the farther Christmas... Probably not right, but has a certain ring to it :)
Edited by Peter Martin on 14 April 2026 at 8:01pm
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James Woodcock
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| Posted: 14 April 2026 at 9:50pm | IP Logged | 11
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See, now you’ve all confused me again!
I would have said Christmas 2027 is further away, not farther away.
And Bob who is further down the pitch would have to run farther than Jim if
the were heading to the goal
Are those two correct?
Jeeze, English 101 on the JBF.
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Brian ONeill
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| Posted: 14 April 2026 at 10:30pm | IP Logged | 12
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'Farther' is used for distance. 'Further' is used for speaking/writing/reading. If James wishes to go further with his example of Bob being farther away...
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