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Mark Haslett Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 25 March 2012 at 6:00pm | IP Logged | 1
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If it's any consolation, I can guarantee you that this eleven year old didn't see any humor in that cover copy.
Awesome commission, too, btw!
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Nathan Greno Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 20 April 2006 Location: United States Posts: 9154
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Posted: 25 March 2012 at 6:04pm | IP Logged | 2
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That ad is so weird! The tone is off. The character is off. Why would that ad make anyone want to buy the book?
And I have never understood the part about Kitty? What does the "real small part" mean? I'm missing the joke...
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Carmen Bernardo Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 08 August 2006 Location: United States Posts: 3666
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Posted: 26 March 2012 at 6:54am | IP Logged | 3
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I got to thinking about that claw mechanism John drew for the DoFP Wolverine in that issue. Basically, we have a mutant who was partially transformed into a cyborg. How we went from that to the claws "always being there", I think was part of that lazy writing/artist syndrome setting in during the 1990s. I still scratch my head when I think about that issue of Wolverine's comic that closed out the whole "Fatal Attractions" crossover in the mid-1990s. It followed closely on the "Weapon X" story that Barry Winsor-Smith drew in the Marvel Comics Presents anthology that ran a few years earlier, in which we were first introduced to the idea that he wasn't exactly a cyborg (the claws formed on their own while the adamantium-infusion process was being done, as if the body was trying to reject the metal). The bionic claw mechanism makes more sense to me.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 26 March 2012 at 7:54am | IP Logged | 4
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I got to thinking about that claw mechanism John drew for the DoFP Wolverine in that issue. Basically, we have a mutant who was partially transformed into a cyborg. How we went from that to the claws "always being there", I think was part of that lazy writing/artist syndrome setting in during the 1990s.•• Chris had it in mind that the claws were part of the mutation long before that.
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Stephen Robinson Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 5835
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Posted: 26 March 2012 at 9:29am | IP Logged | 5
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Mutants had one extra power I thought. Healing factor and bone claws aren't even in the same realm.
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Brian Deuser Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 17 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 895
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Posted: 26 March 2012 at 9:37am | IP Logged | 6
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JB, I marvel at your ability to make the motion lines and blast lines "just work"!
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John Byrne
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Posted: 26 March 2012 at 9:52am | IP Logged | 7
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Mutants had one extra power, I thought. ••• And there, in a nutshell, you capture my problem with Nightcrawler! Blue fur, AND glowing eyes, AND fangs, AND a prehensile tail, AND three digit hands and feet, AND he teleports (with a puff of smoke and brimstone!), AND he's invisible in shadow... Well, at least they got rid of the last one!
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Andrew Hess Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 9843
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Posted: 26 March 2012 at 10:16am | IP Logged | 8
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LOVE this piece! Visible machinery/gears is one of my favorite Byrne motifs.
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Tim O Neill Byrne Robotics Security
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 10931
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Posted: 26 March 2012 at 10:29pm | IP Logged | 9
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Noah: "Easy to forget that Days of Future Past was only two issues. It would be beating a dead horse to discuss how many issues such a story would occupy today. Let's just recall how much awesomeness JB and CC fit into those two ... and, sadly, how much Claremont and others later mined for stories I, for one, found byzantine, alienating, and self-indulgent. But, y'know what, I don't need to read those stories. I can just read DoFP and enjoy that, all by itself."
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I couldn't make it through Cockrum's second run - it was just too awful. I dropped the book and only went back for random issues that never did much for me. But I re-read the JB issues a lot, as well as Cockrum's first run which I still like.
Reading JB's FANTASTIC FOUR at the time of release, it became clear to me that it wasn't just JB's art that I liked. The storytelling that hooked me in X-MEN was happening in FANTASTIC FOUR.
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Tim O Neill Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 26 March 2012 at 10:57pm | IP Logged | 10
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Nathan G: "That ad is so weird! The tone is off. The character is off. Why would that ad make anyone want to buy the book?
And I have never understood the part about Kitty? What does the "real small part" mean? I'm missing the joke..." ***** I've never seen the ad until now, and it is truly bizarre. I like that Marvel's subscription ads were funny and playful, but an ad for such a serious story should have the same tone reflected in the marketing.
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Darren De Vouge Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 March 2012 at 11:54am | IP Logged | 11
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What does the "real small part" mean? I'm missing the joke...
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Maybe that Sentinel was a Steve Martin fan.
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Darren De Vouge Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 March 2012 at 12:04pm | IP Logged | 12
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I found it very... odd.
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Maybe they were going for sardonic but it didn't quite work.
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