BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

You fucking nut.  However you want to spin it, Trump ABSOLUTELY put kids in cages.  

Good luck with that!

Seriously. What the fuck? 

Michael R.: "Must pretend to hate Trump or else the other 40-50 year old dudes will stop reading my posts!"

Too late.

If someone feels strongly one way, and I believe the other way, that's hardly the end of the discussion. I'll listen to someone's rationale. I don't claim to be all knowing or all wise. Someone may have a point I've not considered, a perspective that changes how I see things, or just some facts that will make me reconsider.

But when I ask someone for their reasons about their tendencies, and I get no answer, or I get, "It's obvious - you must be blinded by your worship!" or I read, "It's in the news every day" - then eventually (a very short eventually), I give up. Defend yourself; don't obfuscate or go straw man or insult me.

And innocent protesters are beaten and harassed. That 75 year old man in Buffalo was assaulted by three officers, and "to serve and protect" left him lying prone and bleeding. From what I saw and heard, a lot of violent protesters were not being confronted and arrested. Burning cars and buildings doesn't seem so violent to me, even if some do believe that it's the only way to be heard.

Of course, EVERY SITUATION IS NOT IDENTICAL. There are different reasons, and a lot of people seem to think that the only way they can be heard is by vandalizing and terrorizing. But it sure seems that too many also did nothing illegal, and got arrested anyhow.

I may be too white; I'll never get some of this. Especially with some people commenting how this shows how bad blacks are. What the ever-loving hell?

And no, I don't consider being detained behind a chain link fence as the same as being in a cage.  If that were the case, every school I ever went to growing up was a cage.  

Maybe conversation isn't possible?  I feel like I'm as honest and forthcoming as possible.  Make reasonable attempts to do my own research as well as reading what others post.  But that still doesn't seem to be good enough.  

Outrage and "ignore".  Seems disproportionate to what I've had to say.

It seems to suggest that my impression of tow the line or get silenced wasn't too far off.  I failed to convert so I must not be heard.  Isn't it funny how totalitarianism is okay as long as you agree with it?

You contradict yourself.  If I never did it, I couldn't have "glossed" over it.  Which I also didn't do.  I specifically pointed it out and agreed that it was worth criticizing.