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Gundars Berzins
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Boy, if it walks like a duck...
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Bert Kruger
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This is going to break the internet?...
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Peter Hicks
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"Where did you hear or read that Peter?"
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https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/06/27/marvel-schedules-con ference-call-with-comicspro-comic-stores-over-marvel-legacy- concern/
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Bert Kruger
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Peter's link doesn't work, try this 
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Charles Valderrama
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Seems like Marvel's latest attempt to alienate long-time readers... if any are left!!!!

Regarding those homage covers, perhaps the worse offense-


-C!
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Joe Zhang
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To anyone who is still buying Marvel comics: please stop. So long as they are selling over ten copies of anything, they will continue producing this deconstructed, social-justice compliant crap. 

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Michael Roberts
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From the Ms Marvel issues I've read, it's actually what old-school comic readers complain what Marvel comics should be: accessible and all-ages. 
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Eric White
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Yeah. I would say the Ms Marvel cover is one of the least offensive of those retro crap covers.
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Eric Sofer
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Oh my God.

C!, you've shown the difference between a talented creator team, and a fourteen year old trying to a Marvel cover. And fourteen years might be too generous.

I would expect to see that comparison in an art class, to show the "Marvel method" vs an amateur's method... or maybe in the old "How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way" as a negative example.

Another example I saw a few years ago was of the two covers for Sentry #!. One seems to me to be editorially requested, "Draw a standing character, but draw him at an angle so he might look like he's flying. And make the pose as non-dynamic as possible." The other cover, #1B looked as if it were, "Draw me a flying super hero  - OH MY GOODNESS THAT'S PERFECT! SOMEONE MAKE A MODEL SHEET OF THIS DRAWING!"

I'll say it again. Nostalgic covers, poorly done, of characters that I do not recognize, aren't going to get me back. And nostalgia doesn't work on buyers who aren't nostalgic

It's not going to change Marvel. They're still on a non-stop express to crap town.
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Eric Jansen
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Most of the artists Marvel has been introducing the last few years look to me like indie artists and I have to wonder if they--or the young editors hiring them--have any sense of the history of comics or of the runs or creative teams that made comics great.
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Eric Ladd
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Horrible.
(I'm only posting to make 4 "Eric's" in a row.)

Even the newspaper background looks third rate on the homage cover.


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Ted Pugliese
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No more Erics.
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