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Ed Aycock
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Posted: 07 March 2018 at 12:09pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Archie Comics is always making changes in their reprints.  Often they are pointless changes that wouldn't affect the story at all.

Another bad reprint was a nice color reprint of select issues of "SuperFriends" that came out in 2001.  The first issue of the comic (pre-Ramona Fradon, who joined in issue 3) was a two-parter.  Instead of printing both parts, they clumsily made a few changes, such as turning a frown on Wonder Dog's face into a grin, and abruptly ended a story mid-battle.  It was incredibly sloppy. 
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Brian Miller
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Posted: 07 March 2018 at 1:41pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

The original TPB for DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN omitted pages. I specially recall a page with Thor being left out. 
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Kevin Sharp
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Posted: 07 March 2018 at 3:59pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

The original TPB for DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN omitted pages. I specially recall a page with Thor being left out. 

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Brian: I have both the 1987 TPB printing & the original issues. The amount of Thor (one panel) is the same.
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Eric Sofer
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Posted: 07 March 2018 at 4:37pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

And how could I forget one of the most egregious errors ever? Legion of Super-Heroes 100 page Super Spectacular - Legion of the Damned. It reprinted Legion of Super-Heroes #s 123 and 124,  and Legionnaires #s 78 and 79. And that's how DC released the book; part 1, then 3, then 2, then 4. If you start with part 1, then you have a 1 in 6 chance of getting it right. If you have someone working for you WHO CAN COUNT TO FOUR - even on their fingers - then you get it right.


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John Byrne

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Posted: 07 March 2018 at 4:40pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Hey! My very first published story, at Marvel, had pages out of order!
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Brian Miller
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Posted: 07 March 2018 at 10:31pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Ill check my copy tomorrow, Kevin. Odd, I just read mine again last year and vividly recall that page not being in it. 
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Rebecca Jansen
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Posted: 07 March 2018 at 10:37pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

There was some kind of recurring curse on reprints of Wally Wood's outer space themed run on The Spirit... even just on things referencing it. Pages out of order printed I mean.
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Matthew Wilkie
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Slightly OT maybe, but I thought the repositioning of the Alpha Flight origin back-ups that ran in AF # 2-3 and # 5-11 in he omnibus somewhat curious, placing them in one chunk between the # 1 story and the main story from # 2.

Firstly, I had always assumed that their placement in monthlies was intentional. For example, Guardian's origin in  # 2-3 sets up a sub-plot in the main story that runs through to the battled with Omega Flight #   11-12 and so on.

Secondly, if you are group them together why not have them at the beginning of the volume. The omnibus placement makes no sense at all.
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Eric Jansen
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Posted: 11 March 2018 at 4:49am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Hey! My very first published story, at Marvel, had pages out of order!
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This may be a dumb question that everybody else knows the answer to, but which story was that?
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Noah Smith
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Posted: 11 March 2018 at 12:40pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

I loved how they would update pop culture references in Marvel Tales.  Usually, there weren't many but sometimes it was pretty noticeable.  In that first Green Goblin story, the movie producer, who couldn't look more 1964 if he were wearing a Goldwater button, suggests Tony Curtis should play Spider-Man, in a reprint from 82 or 83 they changed it to Tom Selleck. Okay. That works. Then later on when he wants Doris Day to sing "The Honey and the Hulk" it gets changed to Blondie. 

Blondie was the 1982 equivalent of Doris Day? 
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Brian Miller
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Posted: 11 March 2018 at 1:31pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

You were right, Kevin. Obviously, my memory isnt what it used to be. 
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Kevin Sharp
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Posted: 11 March 2018 at 5:46pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

That might be true for most of us on this forum, Brian! In this particular case -- because "Born Again" is my single favorite DD story -- I've repeatedly gone through the comics, two TPB versions, and the IDW Edition.
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Brian Miller
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Posted: 11 March 2018 at 6:15pm | IP Logged | 13 post reply

I want that IDW Edition soooooo bad. 
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Brian Hague
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Posted: 12 March 2018 at 6:09am | IP Logged | 14 post reply

My copy of "Born Again" is a wreck from my having loaned it out so many times.

I once loaned a copy of a script I purchased on eBay to a friend's sister who held onto to it for months, but assured me she hadn't forgotten it. When we finally ran into one another, she proudly produced the script from the trunk of her car, soaked with antifreeze and oil. She didn't want to forget it the next time she saw me, so she'd been driving around with it back there for weeks. She was so happy.

Fortunately, the DD book isn't in that bad a shape, but it's noticeably ragged. 

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Adam Schulman
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Posted: 12 March 2018 at 7:25am | IP Logged | 15 post reply

"Born Again" is very possibly Frank Miller's best story in comics. It's certainly his best Daredevil story. Best part: Murdock's rooftop discussion with Captain America about Nuke.

"He wears the flag."

"I hadn't noticed." 

I really wanted Miller to start writing CAPTAIN AMERICA right then and there. I realize that giving Steve Rogers pathos over the gap between what America is supposed to be and what it is is a very common theme, but I bet Miller could've worked with it better than anyone before or since. 
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Brandon Carter
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One of the most expensive reprint mistakes just happened recently in DC's Fourth World by Jack Kirby Omnibus, which has 1481 pages and a cover price of $150.  Page 943, which is page 4 of one of the Jimmy Olsen stories, is actually a duplication of the previous Jimmy Olsen issue's page 4.    DC gave out a .pdf file of the correct page, which can be downloaded.  DC is also doing a corrected volume.  I bought a copy from www.instocktrades.com.  I can get a copy of the corrected volume if I remove the front hardcover of the error copy and send it to them by April 1.   I haven't decided yet if it's worth the effort for the replacement copy.
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Brian Hague
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Posted: 12 March 2018 at 10:37pm | IP Logged | 17 post reply

Are they recompensing for postage, Brandon? I don't know that it would be worth it otherwise.

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John Byrne

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Posted: 13 March 2018 at 9:45am | IP Logged | 18 post reply

Blondie was the 1982 equivalent of Doris Day?

It wasn't about equivalencies. Just topical references.

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John Byrne

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Posted: 13 March 2018 at 9:47am | IP Logged | 19 post reply

This may be a dumb question that everybody else knows the answer to, but which story was that?

"Dark Asylum" in GIANT SIZED DRACULA 5.

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Brandon Carter
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Posted: 13 March 2018 at 11:50am | IP Logged | 20 post reply

Are they recompensing for postage, Brandon? I don't know that it would be worth it otherwise.

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The replacement will be shipped at no additional shipping charge but I don't think any recompense is done for the cost of shipping the cover back.  Luckily the whole heavy hardcover doesn't have to be sent back!  I'm a little paranoid, though, about sending in the cover.  If it happens to get lost, I wouldn't get a replacement and I'd have ruined my original volume.  I could send the cover back with tracking but that would be an additional cost and it might end up costing around $10 to essentially replace that one page. 
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