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John Byrne
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ODYSSEY has too much of the overwrought renderings I called his Image Style. Not to my taste.
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Robert Bradley
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Adams was already well established when I discovered his art in the pages of X-Men. His pencils seemed to be very tight at that point and he had some excellent inkers. Later on, his stories suffered from some subpar writing (some of which was his own) and his pencils seems much looser later in his career.
That said, his Batman, Deadman, Green Lantern/Green Arrow, Avengers, X-Men and Inhumans work is all exceptional.
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Peter Martin
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His 70s work on Batman with Giordano inking was towering. So brilliant, so influential. My favourite Batman artist.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 04 September 2024 at 4:33pm | IP Logged | 4
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…his pencils seems much looser later in his career.••• How can you tell how tight or loose inked pencils were?
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Steve Coates
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I have been a big Tarzan fan from a very early age, watched the movies, watched the Ron Ely show, read the comic books, but was not a reader of the novels, until Neal Adams did the covers.
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Robert Bradley
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| Posted: 04 September 2024 at 6:51pm | IP Logged | 6
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How can you tell how tight or loose inked pencils were?
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They may or may not have been, but they were certainly different without the inking of Giordano or Palmer. "Loose" may not be the right word, but his art didn't seem as sharp and polished. It could just be his own inking and the modern coloring that made his art seem less sharp.
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John Byrne
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There are so many steps in the production of a page of comicbook art, I ‘d defy just about anyone to be able to distinguish the individual layers, one from another—and that’s without factoring in potential bias on the part of the observer.
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Doug Centers
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By the time I started getting comics ('75) Neal Adams was basically doing magazines, and inking mostly in those. I left comics in '80 so I missed everything after also.
Later in life I acquired a GL/GA Showcase collection. The art is incredible...INCREDIBLE!
I do have a Neal Adams Artist Edition on order, which has been pushed back to March.
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Joe Smith
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I think I have that AE coming, too.
Next up of Artists to enrobe my brain: Toth
I own the BRAVO AE, and that's it. I loathe myself.
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Eric Jansen
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Probably most of us prefer vintage Neal Adams, but it's sort of cool that even though he was at the top of his field, he still wanted to learn and experiment and see if he could incorporate "Image-isms" into his work. And he did! He mastered the "dynamic realism" school and then he mastered the Image school too!
I bet there were a lot of new readers who looked at his X-MEN: FIRST CLASS mini-series or guest shots or covers for HARLEY QUINN, DEFENDERS, NEW AVENGERS and other more modern series and thought "Who's this cool new artist?!" They didn't know it was a 70-75 year-old man!
Edited by Eric Jansen on 05 September 2024 at 6:09am
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 08 September 2024 at 4:36pm | IP Logged | 11
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I do have a Neal Adams Artist Edition on order, which has been pushed back to March.••• Wait, a REPRINT book is going to be late? WHY???
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ron bailey
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| Posted: 08 September 2024 at 11:55pm | IP Logged | 12
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I think you mean FIRST X-MEN, Eric?
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