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Stéphane Garrelie
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Posted: 10 February 2020 at 10:18am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Using the original name even if it's not common in France is  how we would think today.
Now everybody has learn english in school, and every parent knows it too, and we are more used to anglo-saxon names.
But back in the day, most parents hadn't learn english in school, and what we knew of american names we knew mostly from the movies. Sometime from novels.
"Jane" was very familiar, but "sue" not at all, and the fact "suzanne" was the first name of a old person, a grand-ma, and not of a young woman probably also explains the change.


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Stéphane Garrelie
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Posted: 10 February 2020 at 10:40am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

When we say "ballon", we think "soccer" or "rugby" way before thinking of the ones with string attached.
I suppose you americans would say "ball", for football, soccer or rugby.
We say "ballon" more often than "balle", actually the ball is more the small thing used for tennis or ping-pong, even if you can also use it to design the soccer "ballon".
For comics, "bubble" is more a natural to us. To think of "baloon" as something light, we need to be in the context of a fun fair.

And we call thought baloons "clouds"*. Because that's what it looks like.

(*using of course our french word "nuage")



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Richard Stevens
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Posted: 10 February 2020 at 1:13pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

I love the Scott-Sue team. They would naturally get along, both being perceptive and the backbones of their teams. (and on a metaphorical level, you've got the visor power guy and the invisible woman, interesting opposites!)
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Sebastien Herve
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Posted: 10 February 2020 at 2:01pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Sorry for the mistake on Sue's name ... and thank you Stephane for the explanation. A long time ago (70's), french censorship caused many amazing changes in the names and in the drawings. Is was a "Strange" period.
It is not a long time since "Red" Richard has been given back his real name "Reed", less than two years !
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Jeffrey Rice
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Posted: 10 February 2020 at 6:19pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

This last page is a perfect example of the writing that I miss. Scott is clearly onto something, knows Sue's abilities relatively well enough, and commands the respect that she grabs his hand and wanders right up to the sentinel in the midst of battle.


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David Schmidt
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Posted: 11 February 2020 at 6:56am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

French naming: in France, Wolverine is called “Serval”.Made me want to create a French mutant with that name, just to mess with the translators.

Don't forget they renamed Nightcrawler... "Diablo"!
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John Byrne

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Posted: 11 February 2020 at 7:01am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Don't forget they renamed Nightcrawler... "Diablo"!

••

I HAD forgotten that!

One of my favorite moments in a French comic, tho, was Spider-Man being confronted by Doctor Octopus and exclaiming SAPRISTE! It was a word I had learned from THE GOON SHOW on BBC radio.

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Philippe Pinoli
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Posted: 11 February 2020 at 7:27am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Sapriste doesn't exists in french ! It should have
been sapristi...a very old fashioned what the heck
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John Byrne

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Posted: 11 February 2020 at 7:33am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

The incorrect spelling is mine. I didn't feel like looking it up.

And now, if the French lesson must continue, can we take it to another threat, please?

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Thad Studebaker
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Posted: 11 February 2020 at 8:16am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Secrets revealed. Reed to the rescue! Someone seems to be in for a whole mess of trouble tomorrow. The level of fun and enjoyment just keeps going up and I’m loving it.
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Phillip L Lightfoot
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Posted: 11 February 2020 at 8:24am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

"Shaw!"  (evil chuckle from me)  This is gonna be good...
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Raj Dhami
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Posted: 11 February 2020 at 9:08am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

That final panel on today's page of the Sentinel for some reason, that I am not entirely clear on, reminded me of the pencil only FF try out piece Mr Byrne did all those years ago.  The Kirby inspired piece introducing us to his female Human Torch.  The prototype for Frankie Raye's Nova.

Like I said, I'm not sure why it reminded me - perhaps it was the Kirby-esque Sentinel that did it.

If the JB who did that work back in the day could have seen his career path and then compare that work with the genius that would be Elsewhen his mind would be blown!

not sure what i'm actually trying to say here but its definitely that his new stuff is bloody amazing!!!
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