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Chad Carter
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Chad wrote:
...The END of 1961. November to be exact....

Which, going by how the dates were put on comics at that time, meant the book was probably actually published in August of 1961. Usually, the cover dates were about four months ahead of the actual month the book was published.

 

So DC decides to change things and try to catch up after Marvel was peaking. DP still comes out fairly early as a direct response to Marvel in general, not X-Men in particular.

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Um, getting back to the original post, for a second: Did anyone happen to read this story? If so, do you think it could have provided the basis for Larry Trainor's alter ego?
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I read it! And, yes, the same thought occured to me.
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Ted Pugliese
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DC Mole:  My guess is Carmine Infantino! 

Ketchup claps for those of you who know why!

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Matt Hawes
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 Chad wrote:
...DP still comes out fairly early as a direct response to Marvel in general, not X-Men in particular...

I'm pretty sure that was the same point I was making. I said "The Doom Patrol" was, to me, obviously inspired by "The Fantastic Four."

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Thomas Moudry
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Fantastic Four-inspired or not, I've always thought the Doom Patrol was DC's answer to Marvel Comics in general.

I've always thought those DC Ditko creations of the late-1960's to be Marvel-esque as well.

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Pierce Askegren
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I don't think Jack Kirby wrote that HoM story and thus created that particular Negative Man.  Editor Jack Schiff tended to rely on writers like Dave Wood, Ed Herron and Arnold Drake.

I also don't think the early Doom Patrol stories were a specific response to anything but the re-emerging market for superhero comics.  Yes, there are points of similarity, but most of the characters had other antecedents, and the story reads (to me, at least) like earlier work by Drake, who was a pretty creative guy with his own track record of innovation.  I think the title became more Marvel-like as the Marvel style coalesced and became an industry force, but I think those first issues are examples of parallel thinking (c.f., Batman and the Black Bat, decades earlier).  DC Editorial's disdain for the early Marvels is legendary, after all.

 

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 theodore pugliese wrote:
DC Mole:  My guess is Carmine Infantino!


I presume there's a joke here I'm too dense or ignorant to get?  Enlighten me please...
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George Peter Gatsis
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JB can you or anyone else point to "JB created Venom" post or outline if it is on the board already...

or

JB can you in a nutshell or outline the events to you creating Venom?
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Brian Miller
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Here ya go, George Peter:

http://www.byrnerobotics.com/FAQ/listing.asp?ID=7&T1=Mis cellaneous+Questions#96

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Joe Mayer
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Ok, I get the point of the Venom story...but I don't know who David Michelinie is.  (Forgive my ignorance.) What was his part in creating Venom?
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Brian Miller
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He was the writer of Amazing Spider-Man when Todd McFarlane was the artist. Those two are commonly credited as the creators of Venom.

Edited by Brian Miller on 27 March 2006 at 10:12am
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