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Michael Penn
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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 6:51am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

"...secret and yet not..."

I hope that means hearkening back to something like issue #1: 

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John Byrne

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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 6:52am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Shades of Magneto's talking legs!! Why didn't the letterer lower the art???

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John Byrne

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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 6:54am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Speaking of legs, a classic example there of subjective contour. Angel's legs are black against Jean's, but our brains fill in the "missing" shapes.

I think that's supposed to be Cyclops' CHEST, tho!

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Wallace Sellars
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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 7:12am | IP Logged | 4 post reply


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Perhaps a bit of a SPOILER, but to avoid too much disappointment, I must tell you Willy has no yellow and black uniform in his immediate future.


Ah... Thank you for letting me down easy, sir.
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Michael Penn
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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 7:15am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

I think that's supposed to be Cyclops' CHEST, tho!

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Has to be, considering the angle and shading. Yet, until you pointed it out, I only ever saw it as his arm!
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John Byrne

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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 7:19am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

With the breakneck production rate of those times (which probably accounts for the letterer not having time to do "surgery" on that panel) it occurs to me how "dangerous" it was to have big Xs on the teams' buckles. The early pages could easily have come back from the inker with those circles blacked in!!
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Brian Hughes
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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 7:30am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Having Kitty cover for the Sentinel attack bothers me a bit.  I wonder how the Professor addressed that with her and the team.
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John Byrne

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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 7:36am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Having Kitty cover for the Sentinel attack bothers me a bit. I wonder how the Professor addressed that with her and the team.

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Why do you assume that wasn't what Xavier told her to say?

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John Byrne

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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 7:37am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Ah... Thank you for letting me down easy, sir.

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Well, I didn't want Marv coming after his share of what I'm making from this project!

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Eric Sofer
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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 7:56am | IP Logged | 10 post reply

Mr. Byrne: "...Willy has no yellow and black uniform in his immediate future."

This might address what I think of as the Cypher effect. Some people aer mutants, but just can't (or shouldn't) be super heroes. Doug Ramsey could understand languages. Lila Cheney could teleport, but only on a transplanetary scale. Caliban could detect other mutants. Interesting, and sometimes useful, but more often, just an incidental ability.

There's more to learning how to live as a mutant than putting on a black and yellow uniform and learning to fight Magneto. Not that learning combat tactics and techniques is a bad thing, but for some mutants, it just wasn't any more practical than for an average teenager to learn the same. 

It's true that these abilities could certainly be useful on occasion... but I am not convinced that Xavier's dream was to create an army of mutant warriors. I could very easily understand some students at Xavier's who simply weren't going to be X-Men.
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Brian Hughes
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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 8:04am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Why do you assume that wasn't what Xavier told her to say?

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I figured that is what he told her.  I just did not expect it would be Kitty that provides the cover story so early in her training. 
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John Byrne

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Posted: 12 August 2019 at 8:16am | IP Logged | 12 post reply

You’re working too hard at this.
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