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John Byrne

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Posted: 11 May 2013 at 2:28pm | IP Logged | 1  

despite the scent-of-Reaganism,

What scent of Reaginism? I've heard this before about Byrne's run and I don't quite understand it. JB is hardly a man of the right and there is nothing about his run that sticks out as political.

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Kevin Brown
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Posted: 11 May 2013 at 2:50pm | IP Logged | 2  

Jodi:  Is this still a good one to go to?

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Paul:  Hey Jodi, Jason and I will be in Chicago for that con. Come on over to the convention thread if you want to come.

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My original plans for that weekend have been cancelled, so I will definitely meet up after the con for dinner, etc., if there's anything planned. 

Now off the convention thread to talk about it.  Sorry for the thread drift!

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Flavio Sapha
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Posted: 11 May 2013 at 3:57pm | IP Logged | 3  

when Byrne contributed to the wedding issue
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Gah! Look at that coloring!!! I mean DON'T look!
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Manuel Tavares
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Posted: 11 May 2013 at 4:46pm | IP Logged | 4  

"scent-of-Reaganism"

You mean this?

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Rich Marzullo
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Posted: 11 May 2013 at 5:10pm | IP Logged | 5  

Some people think that exchange means JB was pushing politics and Reaganism into his comics? Sheesh. Give me a break.
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Manuel Tavares
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Posted: 11 May 2013 at 5:22pm | IP Logged | 6  

And what about the Frank Miller approach?

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Jesus Garcia
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Posted: 11 May 2013 at 5:39pm | IP Logged | 7  

That's an example. Good likeness of Reagan at any rate. Note that Superman says "long run" as in "past your term, sir". Also that Superman doesn't agree with Reagan here. No indication of where Superman sits on the political chessboard.

I'm not suggesting that JB used MOS to express or push his political views. It was just that a bit of the popular mindset and fashions that prevailed during the Reagan era found its way into MOS. Otherwise it's a fairly timeless execution. 

Another example is that I still can't re-read those books without seeing Luthor as Donald Trump.

Another yet is Lois being agressively assertive, another sign of the mid 80s.

Things like that.

This is not a criticism, by the way. It's just part of what re-reading the series evokes for me. The series "brings me back to the Reagan" era might have been a better way to state it ... and I didn't enjoy the Reagan era.
Edited to add that I'm sorry I brought politics into the discussion. Another fine missed chance to take a minute before posting.


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Rich Marzullo
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"And what about the Frank Miller approach?"

Yeah, that's a little more...well, biased might be too soft of a word.
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Manuel Tavares
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Posted: 11 May 2013 at 6:10pm | IP Logged | 9  

"It was neat when Byrne contributed to the wedding issue (although I was never a fan of the event)."
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Nathan, I'd rather see Superman get married than seeing him "death-of-superman"ed!
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Michael Kane
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Posted: 11 May 2013 at 9:51pm | IP Logged | 10  

I still don't understand the disdain for DC?
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Gregory Friedman
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Posted: 11 May 2013 at 11:01pm | IP Logged | 11  

I fail to see how a page featuring Reagan as the president is "Reaganism."  Reagan was the president at the time and the story called for interacting with the president.  It was all a pretty standard encounter.

 

Was this "pro-Reagan" simply because it didn't demonize the man?

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Lars Sandmark
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Posted: 11 May 2013 at 11:52pm | IP Logged | 12  

The page that Manuel posted is from the LEGENDS mini-series written by John Ostrander iirc.
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